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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie has launched her new party!

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HirplesWithHaggis · 08/02/2024 18:00

Party of Women, a registered political party.

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IwantToRetire · 10/02/2024 01:22

Assuming those who have asked are serious about standing for KJK's party I would suggest.

Give Posy time to work out what she wants and has to do

Keep checkin her social media platforms to see what she is saying

When and if she says she wants to hear from others willing to stand get in touch with her!

I've posted links throughout this thread about the procedure for standing, but am not going to go back and find them, but from memory you need a fixed number of people to sign a form supporting you standing and paying a deposit.

But if you are serious, that you can easily google all the information because any Party whether KJK or anyone else's will want to know that someone put themselves forward has some initiative!

She will have enough things to do without having to find information that we can find for ourselves.

Not forgetting if she puts forward a whole womanfesto you may not agree with all of it. Excluding sex based rights she does have views some other women dont agree with.

And also remember that assuming you want to stand locally what the implication may be for you and your life in the area.

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2024 01:25

Have just taken my own advice and found this!

You have had a few hours to digest the news about #PartyOfWomen, where are you going to stand?
And which political office?
Local council
Parliament
Senedd
Scottish Parliament
Stormont
Police Commissioner
https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1755869169268953090

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2024 01:28

And if you want to stay informed sign up via web site https://www.theotherparty.co.uk/

She (or a team of helpers) and getting the url changed to Partyof Women.

Home | The Other Party

https://www.theotherparty.co.uk

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2024 01:31

Or it you are not on twitter follow on facebook https://www.facebook.com/humanfemales

SinnerBoy · 10/02/2024 04:29

IClaudine · Yesterday 22:31

Why would he want to? She is a nobody in the political world.

Perhaps in the strict sense of Westminster and regional councils, but she's very well known and popular. Look at the BTL comments on any Daily Mail article on her, for example.

If he blanks her, it'll be a feeding frenzy from the press, who will point out that he doesn't actually support women and is a white livered coward. Either he engages with her and looks like a petulant, patronising fool, or else he blanks her and looks like a coward.

Lose-lose.

Draigosaurus · 10/02/2024 05:56

IwantToRetire · 10/02/2024 01:25

Have just taken my own advice and found this!

You have had a few hours to digest the news about #PartyOfWomen, where are you going to stand?
And which political office?
Local council
Parliament
Senedd
Scottish Parliament
Stormont
Police Commissioner
https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1755869169268953090

The Senedd elections aren’t till 2026 and the voting arrangements will have changed by then. Unlike when Neil Hamilton was elected, there will be a requirement to be resident in Wales. There’ll be no more standing in a specific constituency seat and going head to head with the current incumbent, as instead, it will just be a party list system. That new party list system may or may not be helpful to the Party of Women in gaining a seat in the Senedd. When Neil Hamilton was elected, UKIP specifically targeted Wales because the current PR system of regional seats gave them their best chance in the UK of getting elected, and they were successful because they spent time researching, planning, preparing and targeting. They took the regional “top up” seats that would otherwise have gone to the Lib Dems. Once elected they seemed to spend more time squabbling amongst themselves than anything else.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/14m-manor-house-england-neil-11316679

Cookiedefender · 10/02/2024 06:51

SinnerBoy · 10/02/2024 04:29

IClaudine · Yesterday 22:31

Why would he want to? She is a nobody in the political world.

Perhaps in the strict sense of Westminster and regional councils, but she's very well known and popular. Look at the BTL comments on any Daily Mail article on her, for example.

If he blanks her, it'll be a feeding frenzy from the press, who will point out that he doesn't actually support women and is a white livered coward. Either he engages with her and looks like a petulant, patronising fool, or else he blanks her and looks like a coward.

Lose-lose.

Again, why are you demanding only Starmer debates with her?

Surely, Sunak should be challenged on his parties record in Govt too? which is dire on the removal of womens rights

Sunak is just as much a prospective PM after the GE as Starmer is.

SinnerBoy · 10/02/2024 07:12

I want her to debate with Starmer in particular, because of his TWAW stance and his suggestion that he will criminalise misgendering. And to see if, by "women," he means women and anyone who says they're a woman.

I'd also be happy for her to have debates with any other politician, but if she does stand against Pants Full of Mustard, then he's the most logical opponent.

Cookiedefender · 10/02/2024 07:23

But anyone can challenge Starmer on this & doubtless the pressure on him to "clarify" his stance will increase.

But i want the incumbents to say why they have never reformed the GRA, why they have underfunded womens services and of course challenge Lab on these too but i think focusing in on one party, that is in opposition is odd.

Generally speaking, I think some people use Womens rights to bash Labour with, not because they care about women but because they are natural Conservative supporters.
eg jailing people for mis gendering, as Labour have never publicly stated a policy on this, its all conjecture, mainly publicised by the right leaning media ie Sun, Express Mail.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/02/2024 07:28

Generally speaking, I think some people use Womens rights to bash Labour with, not because they care about women but because they are natural Conservative supporters.

Here's that lazy thinking again.

No. It's because many of us want to vote Labour, but can't, that we're holding them to account. We don't support the Tories at all, but they're doing what Tories do best (being selfish cunts in the modern incarnation of the party). We expect more of Labour, and want clarity on this issue.

All this, 'Oh, you're just a shy Tory' is exceptionally arrogant from those on the left who seemingly don't want the difficult questions to be raised.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 07:30

NoWordForFluffy · 10/02/2024 07:28

Generally speaking, I think some people use Womens rights to bash Labour with, not because they care about women but because they are natural Conservative supporters.

Here's that lazy thinking again.

No. It's because many of us want to vote Labour, but can't, that we're holding them to account. We don't support the Tories at all, but they're doing what Tories do best (being selfish cunts in the modern incarnation of the party). We expect more of Labour, and want clarity on this issue.

All this, 'Oh, you're just a shy Tory' is exceptionally arrogant from those on the left who seemingly don't want the difficult questions to be raised.

Edited

Yes that poster is incorrect if they read beyond preconceptions they’ll see posts such as yours

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 07:31

As for standing against Starmer he’s the most obtuse on this

I’m glad though that KJK is getting enough headspace already for a don’t do it to the one I prefer from pp

I look forward to that feeling increasing

NoWordForFluffy · 10/02/2024 07:36

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 07:30

Yes that poster is incorrect if they read beyond preconceptions they’ll see posts such as yours

Hopefully many of us will get a PoW candidate to vote for so we can stop agonising over being politically homeless.

I'm looking forward to leaders being questioned on the PoW's stance. I can quite easily see KJK raising an issue directed at Labour and a TV / radio journalist picking it up and running with it to ask Starmer / a Shadow Cabinet member the question in interview. It doesn't have to be a direct head-to-head to get her position heard.

After all, the MSM has to be even handed throughout the campaigning period. It should be interesting.

Cookiedefender · 10/02/2024 07:36

My point is ALL the parties should be held to account on their TWAW policies, but the lazy thinking is "She must debate with Mustard pants Starmer"

We didn't get to where we are now because of Labour.

Starmer is no more obtuse on this than Sunak, look beyond the words.

We also need PR or KJK will go no where.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/02/2024 07:39

We didn't get to where we are now because of Labour.

Patently untrue as their legislation (which was abysmally-drafted, like much of it is) is what opened the doors to this.

The Tories are starting to sort this issue out (see Kemi Badenoch's work on it). And also, people don't want them to remain in charge, so they're desperately trying to get Labour to see sense.

The LDs and Greens are so far down the rabbit hole that I'm not sure anything will get through to them!

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 07:40

Cookiedefender · 10/02/2024 07:36

My point is ALL the parties should be held to account on their TWAW policies, but the lazy thinking is "She must debate with Mustard pants Starmer"

We didn't get to where we are now because of Labour.

Starmer is no more obtuse on this than Sunak, look beyond the words.

We also need PR or KJK will go no where.

Edited

I do and Labour is behind on this

Which senior Labour politician would you rely on to challenge gender ideology?

Plus thankfully it’s down to KJK

You can set up a party and debate with Sunak if that’s your preference

SinnerBoy · 10/02/2024 08:00

I definitely want to vote for Labour, but feel unable to. I definitely won't be voting Tory / Reform etc, nor Green or Lib, as they're worse than Labour on this.

AlisonDonut · 10/02/2024 08:03

Cookiedefender · 10/02/2024 06:51

Again, why are you demanding only Starmer debates with her?

Surely, Sunak should be challenged on his parties record in Govt too? which is dire on the removal of womens rights

Sunak is just as much a prospective PM after the GE as Starmer is.

Sinner isn't 'demanding' anything at all.

She is going to run in his constituency because he is likely to be the next PM and she wants to challenge him head on.

She has been clear on this from the start.

If he wants to say 1% of females have a penis then he needs to explain this and that's the aim of her doing this in the first place.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/02/2024 09:03

I can't recall which poster said this, or on which thread, but they said we'd essentially got here due to Tory apathy on the matter, rather than them actively pushing it (it was mainly Stonewall working hard in the background while the Tories were apathetic which resulted in where we're at now). Had Labour won the election, it would have been actively pushed, as per their manifesto.

The Tories have now realised that we've been sleepwalking towards this mess and that people are (when they realise - see the Isla Bryson debacle) horrified by it in the main. Hence now seemingly working on resolving it. I'd imagine amendment of the EA will likely be in their manifesto.

MatchingBedding · 10/02/2024 09:16

@AlisonDonut thank you. Yes this is my understanding she is standing in Starmers Constituency so she would naturally have more opportunity to debate him. He’s likely to be the next prime minister. As a previous poster mentioned earlier… I doubt very much that Posie is expecting to “win” an election against Kier Starmer. She is trying to raise awareness and be allowed to have publicity and a voice.
The black clad boys attacking her supporters and her will be MUCH more visible when they are attacking someone on a political stage standing against the labour leader.
I think it’s a brilliant move by KJK, she’s a shrewd woman. She knows that a party for women basically alienates 49% of the population, men aren’t going to vote for her en masse. I don’t think this is about becoming an MP I think it’s showing the support and power of the disenfranchised. Good luck Posie! I will be routing for you.

Datun · 10/02/2024 09:17

If he wants to say 1% of females have a penis then he needs to explain this and that's the aim of her doing this in the first place.

This.

They don't need to have a debate, or go head to head. In fact I suspect Starmer would avoid that at all costs.

It will only take one or two questions to make him look like an utter prat. And for the country to grasp the dangerous and nonsensical nature of trans ideology.

Posie doesn't even need to be the person to ask them. Her party's very existence will provide anyone with the means to do so.

I'm not sure why people think politicians won't be asked, when it's such a huge tinderbox of an issue.

It's the quickest way to undermine an opponent.

They'd be mad not to ask.

ruby1957 · 10/02/2024 09:28

A manifesto is a written declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party, or government.

Whoever called it a 'womanfesto' is being ridiculous and undermining what I assume this 'party of women' is intending to do.

Personally I expect they will do nothing at all of worth - but if it keeps you all happy go ahead with it.

Most women won't give them the time of day let alone a vote

NoWordForFluffy · 10/02/2024 09:33

ruby1957 · 10/02/2024 09:28

A manifesto is a written declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party, or government.

Whoever called it a 'womanfesto' is being ridiculous and undermining what I assume this 'party of women' is intending to do.

Personally I expect they will do nothing at all of worth - but if it keeps you all happy go ahead with it.

Most women won't give them the time of day let alone a vote

Thank you for coming to tell us wims off. Your input is much-appreciated.

In fact, I'd go so far as saying that the only person undermining what KJK wants to achieve is you with your dismissive comments.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 09:34

ruby1957 · 10/02/2024 09:28

A manifesto is a written declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party, or government.

Whoever called it a 'womanfesto' is being ridiculous and undermining what I assume this 'party of women' is intending to do.

Personally I expect they will do nothing at all of worth - but if it keeps you all happy go ahead with it.

Most women won't give them the time of day let alone a vote

The media does give her the time of time and will even more

Great

Headlines and comments. Did Isla Bryson pass you by?

Starmer is lily livered on this for a reason

LWSnow · 10/02/2024 10:09

They're desperate for her to have no support

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