Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

[ResisterRex]

Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Shortening the waiting list for people who need gender confirmation surgery to the NHS average will barely impact the NHS, and shortages of HRT are not down to transgender people.

Tell that to women who need urgent breast surgery for breast cancer. There are a finite number of specialist breast surgeons in the UK and a finite number of days in the year they are able to operate. Surgery by a specialist breast surgeon is important for treatment outcomes. Fast tracking “gender affirming” mastectomies on the NHS will adversely impact women (and men) needing cancer surgery.

There really is no end to DadJoke’s callous disregard for women, is there?

I noticed a lot of comments BTL under Debbie Hayton’s book serialisation in the DM were questioning why gender affirming surgery was being funded on the NHS. I’m inclined to agree, particularly give the (as yet) unknown costs rectifying complications later on.

From the article (Labour councillor who fell asleep during CSA briefing): "People fall asleep at work all the time, don't they?"

No, they really don't. Nurses on 12 hour shifts, bus drivers, teachers, none of them fall asleep at work, let alone all the time. You fucking melt.

We are truly lions led by donkeys.

It saddens me that you are not a squirrel!

if i was a squirrel then I’d deffo be that squirrel

Either Labour do not require gender critical women and men's votes to win the next election or they do.

If Labour does not need our votes:

then we may vote as we please, up to and including the Monster Raving Loony Party and Labour will still win.

If Labour does need our votes:

why is Labour choosing to imperil its electoral chances? Why is Labour foregoing its opprtunities to form a government and its chance to enact any policies, e.g. NHS, education, and so on, rather than compromising on its trans policies?

If they'd rather stay out of government than compromise on the trans policies, then they don't feel very deeply about saving the NHS, do they?

And why am I supposed to ignore that?

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Oh look, there are even emojis of the little buggers

Can we have field another candidate to stand against that weasel Wes Streeting too please? He’d love it if Kellie toppled Keir. He’s already on manoeuvers.

Yes, there will; but half of those who will vote Labour don't really expect much change at all. In fact. Many Labour party voters actively hate Starmer and see him as 'right wing'.

Personally, if Labour does get elected I do hope they can make some changes for the better - but I know, at best, it will just be 'tinkering around the edges'. The whole of Europe, and beyond, is having a crisis at present, albeit with the focus of that crisis being in slightly differing areas.

I'll not be voting Labour though - as I cannot bring myself to have any responsibility for what they intend to do regarding gender ideology - further cementing it, and punishing 'wrong think' through increased hate crime legislation. The part of Labour that has embraced 'progressive' american identity politics is a total anathema to me.

And I cannot get the the thought of my own MP; and the likes of Nadia Whittome; Lloyd Russel Moyle; Ben Bradshaw; Dawn Butler; Michael Cashman; that recently defected Stonewall board member ( Ian Anderson); Angela Eagle, and many many others out of my mind. Not a chance!

But how can anyone vote for the Tories on the basis of protecting women's rights? They have been in power in Westminster for what feels like a billion years, and they have allowed us to get into the current sorry mess.

You’ll need to broaden your insight to include what’s going on in many countries

After stating a lot of utter nonsense, bloody Sir Keir managed to tell us that "women are adult females" - notice he left out the 'human' part.
Funny that- as it's Labour who let Rotherham grooming gangs happen.
I'll be voting against Labour, Lib Dems and the Greens - I'm voting Tory for the second time ever.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. We could have had better protection for women, in prisons, rape crisis centers, toilets, the NHS, academia, the civil service, everywhere really, regardless of what might happen in other countries. Some of it is now coming via tribunals and legal action. Shouldn't have been necessary.

What it means is -

If you think gender ideology is particularly bad here it’s not just a U.K. problem

In fact we are likely ahead at turning the tide

Likely not for long under Starmer though, depressingly

@EasternStandard oh I see. Yes, some other places are even worse, sadly!

It doesn't feel anything like 1997 did, IMO.

I agree. In 1997 - the first election in which I could vote - it felt like the incumbent Tory party were so far behind the times. We had Cool Britannia, Oasis v Blur in the Britpop battles, alcopops and the 60s were fashionable again. We also had a government that was male, pale and stale (sorry Sir John, in hindsight I think you were a decent chap) with its roots in the 1970s and woefully out of touch with the electorate on everything.

That’s not where we are today.

I suspect there are a lot of people who will vote Tory on the quiet, often because they won’t admit to it. If I looked at my social media feeds, with its very middle-class lefty bubble, in the last elections, you’d think we’d have had a Labour landslide or a Lab/Green coalition. We had neither, in fact the last election saw Johnson get a thumping majority and look how divisive HE was.

Wanna borrow my jackboots? 😃

@SinnerBoy I’m not sure I’d suit a shaved head…

And possibly wouldn't have been if the Labour Party hadn't introduced the legal fiction of the GRC which allows men to be legal females back in 2004.

Shame that now, even after years of seeing the impact that has on women, they'd rather have rapists in women's prisons. Because after all, any man, can be a woman.

@AdamRyan can you hear yourself? It's the equivalent of saying "You are going to vote for them on the basis that Sunak says the Earth is round and orbits the sun? Why does it matter if Starmer says the Earth is flat and the sun rotates round it?" If you don't know why it matters that Starmer says that women can have penises when he knows perfectly well they can't, then anyone on here arguing with you is wasting their time.

The plus side is that if Starmer DOES get in, the court cases will keep on rolling, the Cass report will arrive, women will get ever louder and angrier and more vocal in growing numbers as he tries to escalate the batshit, more and more disasters will stack up, the general public get ever more aware and pissed off, and this will be a thorn in his side the size of bloody Texas.

I shall enjoy it. But he really won't.

This is the trouble. With their doublespeak and havering all these succeeded in doing is losing everyone's trust.

I hope he has an Isla Bryson type political hit

Maybe he’ll get the splinters out

It only ever goes one way. We're only ever a few hours away from the next disaster hitting the headlines and every time it does, public awareness jumps further and politicians jump when their PR gets grotty.

It'll happen to the Tories too, just the same, but they've done enough foot dragging and pausing for thought that they won't be entirely left with their pants down in the way of the other parties.

@AdamRyan
I'm not a man and couldn't give a shiny shit who you vote for
I object to smears and misinformation. And on a personal level I'm terrified what another 5 years of tory corruption, lying, incompetence, and financial mismanagement will do to the UK. Lots of people are on the bare bones of their arses. Dying waiting for treatment. Kids can't get mental health support. Can't recruit enough teachers. Shit in the seas and rivers. More and more women and children in poverty. Why anyone is voting for more of that I don't understand

Well said and same

I am, because I don’t trust a word Starmer & Labour say. Many of the women & men I know will also not vote Labour because of their attitude towards the rights of women and the safeguarding of children.

They should be begging women to vote for them, they should be apologizing to Rosie Duffield and others for the behaviour of many of their MPs. Instead they are treating us, and our concerns , with as much contempt as Labour , Lib Dems , and SNP/Greens have done in Scotland.
I , for one , won’t be fooled by Labour.

We only have your word for that.

How do we know you are really a reindeer?

But I concur that I wouldn't trust anything the Graun prints these days even if it was confirmed by 3 Justices of the Peace, the Master of the Rolls and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

But I concur that I wouldn't trust anything the Graun prints these days even if it was confirmed by 3 Justices of the Peace, the Master of the Rolls and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Particularly not the latter!