Brighton shows why you shouldn’t vote Labour - Julie Burchill (and a mention of IamSarah)

[IwantToRetire]

The pleas of many local parents to rid our schools of pesty wokeness have fallen on deaf ears. Classrooms have become petri dishes for social experiments in defiance of parental wishes. Is it really possible that, a few years ago, one school in Brighton, labelled as ‘the coolest state secondary in town’, once had as many as 40 children who did not identify with their sex at birth with another 36 saying they were ‘gender fluid’? Or is this social contagion, as eating disorders are now often understood to be, among sad teenagers desperate to identify as something or anything, rather than feel lonely? Whatever it is, the council are hindering rather than helping these confused adolescents. Sometimes it seems as though there is an almost sadistic element to the way right-on teachers torment distraught parents. Isn’t it odd to send people who think diversely off for re-education, or re-‘training’?

And another thing, after boasting that ‘diversity is strength’, isn’t it odd to send people who think diversely off for re-education, or re-‘training’? This is what the Sainted Bella did after Councillor Alison Thomson retweeted posts supporting JK Rowling and the feminist Germaine Greer. Even though the culprit apologised unreservedly, Chairman Sankey frowned, ‘I have also taken the decision to remove Councillor Thomson from her lead role on city centre renewal while further investigation is carried out and subject to her completing training.’ Because nothing says not being qualified to work on renewing city centres like believing in women’s rights.

But not even the re-training of the hapless Thomson was enough for one Green councillor, Chloe Goldsmith. She asked how Labour would ‘meaningfully demonstrate’ to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, questioning/queer, asexual plus (LGBTIQA+) people that the party would stand up for them. This brought another avalanche of woo-woo affirmation from Labour, with the situation continuing ad infinitum.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/brighton-shows-why-you-shouldnt-vote-labour/

The statement is precisely accurate.
Cameron, with the backing of his front bench, and to his immense credit, pushed through same-sex marriage in the teeth of his party's resistance and most of them voted against it.
It was the manifesto position of all
three main parties in the previous election.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

No it isn't!. It is a legitimate magazine with writers of quality. Julie Bindel and Kathleen Stock amongst many others have written for it. It might not conform to certain narrow ideological constraints, but that doesn't make it a " Hate rag"

People can decide for themselves who they vote for, or whether they spoil their ballot. If I lived in Brighton I'd not be voting Labour either.

I live in Liverpool, and there is a not a chance in hell I'll be voting for my Labour MP. She's a resolute TWAW; and spend the rest of her time vitue signalling and being utterly ideologically predicatble. She refuses to meet with her constituents if their views do not align with her commitments.

I'm an ex Labour party member.

My Left-Wing friend, for the sake of balance, takes the New Statesman and The Spectator. She often says how much better the journalism is in the latter.
I have a subscription and always find something of interest in it.

this isn't the only important thing to think about when it comes to policies.

For some women it is. Who are you, @Dinoland, to tell other people what they should and shouldn’t prioritise?

I’m impressed by the way the Spectator recruits for their internships - purely on the basis of written tasks, and any reference to your qualifications or experience disqualifies you.

I’m shocked, @SaffronSpice Shocked I tell you. No practicing of funny marches? Scrutiny of moustaches? Mine’s coming along quite nicely, thought I’d be a shoe-in.

I didn't know that, it's quite interesting. I am sure it must pay off for them long term.

This is so effing boring.

There are endless links to Telegraph articles, and if anything they are at least as bad if not worse than the Spectator in having right wing, racist, male reactionary journalists.

It is the numbing silliness of thinking anyone on FWR has posted a link to try and persuade someone how to vote.

Try and engage with the issue.

This is a forum for discussion.

I am not in Brighton but I do live in an inner city area which has had Labour in power for decades. It has some of the worst housing in the UK. It has or had a Labour mayor who had to resign because of covering up sexual abuse by a co-councillor (who he shared a house with). At a recent by-election the democratically chosen Labour contender was suspended a few days before the vote, and was only re-instated after issuing a humiliating "apology".

The real danger from Labour is silly acccolytes behaving like unthinking handmaidens that allow this Party to be so useless.

At a time when more than ever, given the record of the Tories under their many PMs, you would think Labour would be able to come up with something remotely resembling socialism.

But they dont because they are cowardly and weak, and would prefer to get elected on a manifesto that is watered down conservatism.

So the real danger from Labour are those who subserviantly promote them, and fail in their duty as an active citizen, to constructively criticise them.

This is the sort of dumb posture politics, very similar to TRAs in fact, who try and deny reality and abuse people who point out reality, as being some sort of traitor.

Dont forget many of the financial problems that institutions like education and health, are because of the stunningly stupid PFI. ie more money is going on paying of the debt to private finance than going into service provision.

Labout didn't reverse one of the most destructive actions of Thatcher, the sale of council housing and the block on building anything new.

If you want people to vote Labour, ie encourage all of us who probably wont vote, you really need to come up with some well argued points from Labour about how they are going to improve peoples lives.

But keep on shouting from your soapbox if it makes you feel superior.

But accept that far than convincing people you just antagonise them.

And to get back to the issue, if would have been more productive to have provided evidence about how a Tory run council was just as bad, for instance.

And by tahe way, if you really think that the purpose of posting on FWR (Feminist and Women's Rights) is to persuade people to vote how you think they should vote, why dont you start your own thread.

All that is happened is all those who actually appear not to be convinced enough about the arugement to vote Labour, because they never start their own thread about this, is that year another thread is taken up with repititious to and fro that now most threads drown on.

I honestly thought this thread would get a few, "I really like JB's writing", "Well its Brighton what did she expect", or even why post, we all know that about Brighton.

The responses are so insulting towards the thinking levels of those who contribute to FWR.

I look forward to a well argued presentation about why we should all vote Labour as the OP for a new thread.

As if ...

(edited to correct numerous typos resulting from typing in a temper!)

I had a look at your link. It's not true that most Tories voted against same-sex marriage. It's true that more voted against (136) than for (127), but you forgot about the 5 abstentions and 36 who didn't vote. So it would be correct to say that most Tories didn't vote for same-sex marriage, but not that most voted against.

If you're interested in accuracy, you should be accurate.

Fair enough.

FWIW I do live in Brighton and it’s a spangly turd. Beach is nice though.