Edinburgh Arts Group to launch play about JKR called TERF C**T – where Daniel, Rupert and Emma stage an 'intervention'

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The play, which will be performed on stage in New York next month and is being touted for the Fringe this summer, sees the author's 'surrogate children – Daniel, Rupert and Emma' stage an 'intervention'

Civil Disobedience, which has its roots in the Edinburgh Fringe and was launched by Barry and Josef Church-Woods in May 2016, described it as a "vital think-piece on Joanne, exploring just what could motivate a person with such privilege to take such a divisive stance on issues that affect her fans".

It has been written by Joshua Kaplan, a "queer screenwriter and playwright", and will be performed at The Actors Studio in New York City on Thursday, February 8.

A press release advertising the show claims: "Please note: TERF C**T is not a kill piece. It provides space for reflection and ultimately offers the audience time to explore some of the more contentious aspects of JK's life."

The synopsis for the show continues: "Joanne led a blessed life – for a woman. Billionaire. Literary phenomenon. Natural ginger. And most importantly, beloved. Completely beloved. Until she blew it all to hell.

"From book deals to divorces, family dysfunction to broken friendships, TERF C**T goes beyond the headlines to explore the woman that captivated a world with her books only to unravel a legacy with her tweets."

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/celebrity-news/jk-rowling-attacked-standing-up-31948409

That could be another improv - ask the audience to shout gender identities for the characters. A quick Google gave me Blurgender, Angenital, Astral gender, Two-spirit, Cloudgender, Mirrorgender, Gender gifted, Graygender.... then you could ask the audience to propose what they mean and take it from there.

And best of all - who knew there was a Cassgender? https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htm

Getting into the Festival groove here!

They missed 'cake gender' 😔 so there's at least 73.

That list is on a website that purports to give medical advice!

Sorry Cake! Well it can't be a proper medical website if it left out the most important gender identity of all, can it? Tut. Such a pity that we can't trust everything purporting to be medical advice.

And only one of them has a space 😲 Apparently the space is important because what does gender even mean if it doesn't mean nothing?

I'm Lego-Gender. I have many fine qualities, and am agreeable company for all ages, but WOE BETIDE YOU if you step on me.

To the poster who highlighted that, to some, gender is ineffable. This is quite the contrast to others (most posters on this board) who consider it obsolete.

Many of us can accept that the same concept can be considered extraordinary and immense to some people and outdated and problematic to others.

For me, I don't have a problem with respecting the different, subjective, thoughts and feelings that people hold about gender. It's sex that is immutable and binary and matters in some aspects of law and life

AmaryllisNightAndDay · Today 13:58

A quick Google gave me Blurgender...

Is that for people who identify as Brit Pop stars?

They're girls who want boys who like boys to be girls who do boys like they're girls who do girls like they're boys. I can see why they abbreviated it.

HAHA!

Most excellent, Cakey !

👏

Cisgendered women are women who were women from birth. This is fact backed up by dictionaries. In addition, see link, "These terms [cisgender and transgender] are widely accepted in social and medical contexts. The Canadian government uses these classifications in its census, and the American Psychological Association includes them in its glossary."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/x-formerly-twitter-restricts-accounts-121439791.html

Transgendered women are women (if you agree trans women are women, which is debateable) who were born male but transitioned at some point.

I know people have differing opinions, but I will go along with dictionaries, the Canadian Gov, the American Psychological Association and many gay/bi/trans people and allies who are in agreement cisgender and transgender are valid terms and are not "slurs" or "offensive".

Cisgendered women are women who were women from birth.

That's... women. We're born as girls and we inevitably grow into women. We can't grow into anything else.

Canadian Gov, the American Psychological Association and many gay/bi/trans people and allies who are in agreement cisgender and transgender are valid terms and are not "slurs" or "offensive".

Oh well, if Canada and the US and some self-styled "allies" accept it then we all have to accept it. You do you. Just don't impose it on those of us who live on the other side of the world and don't share their rather narrow and colonial worldview.

(And I suspect the APA will change their collective mind before much longer.)

That's hilarious.

No humans are women from birth.

The word "transitioned":seems pivotal to all that explanation from @Christinapple

In truth it's not possible to transition a human from male to female or vice versa so the explanation falls at the first hurdle no matter what people have written in dictionaries about the odd behaviour of some people.

If you scroll past the trending pages, you will see there are actually over 4000 genders and there’s a complete list of them. The list you shared is nowhere near complete - https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Gender_Identities

So by "women who are women from birth" I'm assuming you believe that being female "matches" or "corresponds with" being a woman. In what way do these things align?

You seem to use "woman" to mean female-sexed in your post.

Essentially, what do you believe is female about a woman, @Christinapple ? Not the body, obviously, so what?

Oh dear Lord, there you go again. No one is born a woman.

No dictionary will say otherwise.

And again, please don't leverage homosexuality, when the ideology you support not only doesn't believe in it, it directly undermines it.

Strewth, proponents of gender ideology are, without exception, completely incoherent when they talk about it.

many gay/bi/trans people and allies who are in agreement cisgender and transgender are valid terms and are not "slurs" or "offensive".

lol! It's all in the eye of the beholder, until it's inconvenient, innit. 🤣

Are you any closer Christinapple to describing what criteria I can use to see if my gender matches my sex?

Whatever happened to ‘I am who I say I am?’.

Christinapple · Today 15:31

Cisgendered women are women who were women from birth.

No need for any convoluted and mangled grammar, with irrelevant and unnecessary prefixes. Women were conceived and born female.

There you go, much simpler and entirely factual.

many gay/bi/trans people and allies who are in agreement cisgender and transgender are valid terms and are not "slurs" or "offensive".

And? Many White supremacists are in agreement that Black people should be referred to by the "N" word. People using language, which others find offensive, don't get to set the parameters.

For me, I don't have a problem with respecting the different, subjective, thoughts and feelings that people hold about gender. It's sex that is immutable and binary and matters in some aspects of law and life

I not only don't have a problem with it, I actively embrace it. The only issue I have is the reusing of the language of sex to label feelings of gender when they are clearly different things, and through this the dishonest appropriation of provisions, needs, experiences and historic facts into the narrative of gender when in reality they are rooted in sex.

I cannot see how anyone can honestly explore or express "gender", whatever it is, as long as it is being shoehorned into badly fitting cultural spaces that came from sex and sexism.

I can only assume that those who have hijacked this thread to have yet another repetitive "discussion" about labels are in fact a deliberate attempt to divert from the purpose of the thread to expose the ongoing harrassment and bullying of JKR.

Such a shame anyone played along.

If it is that important why haven't you started a thread about it.

Sorry retire maybe start all your threads with some rules at the top so we know what we can and can’t say on one of your threads 🙄

I dont just think this about my threads!

Its partly, as i am sure is the same with others, that I dont have as much time in my day as i would like.

And in fact rely on FWR to keep up with events news and women, or course.

In this instance I am so angry about how JKR is being treated, cant Edinbury ban it for libel, or slander or whatever, that when I see the thread has been updated I think there's been a development. So click on the link.

And also, the discussion about words etc., is more than worth its own thread. Others who might have things to say wont have the opportunity to join in, because it wouldn't occur to them to do so on a thread with a totally different topic. Dont you want to hear from them?

Sorry to sound so pedestrian. Those of us who are slow witted need things to be simple and straight forward.

Anyone who goes along with the Canadian government needs to get their bumps felt.