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BBC Woman's Hour guest list bias, trans-activists 43, gender sceptical 13 contact them to ask for representation of women and women's voices

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AlphariusOmegron · 24/01/2024 11:45

Every person in court fighting for gender critical beliefs (and winning) is a woman. This is a deeply misogynistic, regressive issue where women's voices are being taken away from them. Men, saying they are women, are telling women to shut up and get back in their boxes, that they are not what they think they are, that a man can tell you you're wrong and never be questioned.

From the Open University, to the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, women are being gaslit and the BBC, amongst others, is allowing it. Use your voice and get Womans hour, and the rest of the media to pay attention

Contact Woman's Hour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3xyZd5NjJZmN7WztP96vCG/contact-us

Detailed list of guests with names: https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1750102590564466909

https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1750102590564466909

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Tallisker · 24/01/2024 12:07

That is epic!

SoundTheSirens · 24/01/2024 12:11

I agree that this is a horribly misogynistic movement, that there is definite bias toward TRAs being represented on WH, and I think contacting them is a great idea so I'm on onboard, but just to note there are some men caught up in this gender madness too (e.g. James Esses, expelled from his counselling course for believing in the immutability of sex).

TeenDivided · 24/01/2024 12:20

I would be interested to see the timeline.
The impression I have is WH was extremely skewed towards trans voices initially but these days is finally providing an opportunity for more GC voices to be heard.

JellySaurus · 24/01/2024 12:22

Completely agree.

But just a point: sometimes TW do our job for us, especially on radio. I don't get to listen to WH very often. Do interviewers let TW dig their own baritone holes? Or do they only interview TRAs?

Ohyoudodoyou · 24/01/2024 14:39

Billy Bragg looking very thick on Twitter re:this topic.
He should absolutely stop now as he's looking desperate theses days. Think he may be in hot water with Rosie Duffield (rubs non-mangled claws together in glee!)

twitter.com/billybragg/status/1749864600902737948

Boiledbeetle · 24/01/2024 18:09

That's an interesting list!

CriticalCondition · 24/01/2024 18:17

Crikey! When it's down in black and white the imbalance is unarguable.

BettyBooper · 24/01/2024 19:34

Debbie Hayton is a TW whose views support women's rights. https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/resources/prison-service-needs-work-facts-not-fiction

I agree that the bias here is heavily towards TRAs, but not all TW believe they are actually women.

The prison service needs to work with facts, not fiction | Centre for Crime and Justice Studies

https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/resources/prison-service-needs-work-facts-not-fiction

WarriorN · 24/01/2024 21:13

Oh my goodness this has completely spiralled.

Pam copied in Billy, who disputed Blabla's data as she'd at that point missed off Rosie.

Billy said Rosie was one of the biggest anti trans activists.

Rosie has copied in Peter daly into her response...

x.com/rosieduffield1/status/1750150853682499912?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

BBC Woman's Hour guest list bias,  trans-activists  43, gender sceptical 13 contact them to ask for representation of women and women's voices
JanesLittleGirl · 24/01/2024 22:31

WarriorN · 24/01/2024 21:13

Oh my goodness this has completely spiralled.

Pam copied in Billy, who disputed Blabla's data as she'd at that point missed off Rosie.

Billy said Rosie was one of the biggest anti trans activists.

Rosie has copied in Peter daly into her response...

x.com/rosieduffield1/status/1750150853682499912?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Sounds like the lyrics of "Games without frontiers".

RhannionKPSS · 25/01/2024 00:46

“ Debbie “ isn’t an ally or friend to women and Billy Bragg is a vile, thick misogynist arse fly

Ohyoudodoyou · 25/01/2024 06:11

He's busy writing songs about being a 'railwaythem' between the wars so that he can try to make money to fight legal cases.

EasternStandard · 25/01/2024 06:51

The BBC is part of the problem

@WarriorN who is Peter Daly?

WarriorN · 25/01/2024 06:54

Shit hot GC lawyer 😂

Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2024 08:05

WarriorN · 24/01/2024 21:13

Oh my goodness this has completely spiralled.

Pam copied in Billy, who disputed Blabla's data as she'd at that point missed off Rosie.

Billy said Rosie was one of the biggest anti trans activists.

Rosie has copied in Peter daly into her response...

x.com/rosieduffield1/status/1750150853682499912?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

OH BILLY BOY!

Just to be clear for me and my lawyer
can you say those words once more.
I just want to make sure I've got it right,
(sorry if you find this a chore).
Because I'm not an anti-trans activist
but a defender of women's rights.
I think women are women, and men are men.
Yes! Even the men in tights!

SaffronSpice · 25/01/2024 09:39

BettyBooper · 24/01/2024 19:34

Debbie Hayton is a TW whose views support women's rights. https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/resources/prison-service-needs-work-facts-not-fiction

I agree that the bias here is heavily towards TRAs, but not all TW believe they are actually women.

Debbie Hayton supports Debbie Hayton’s rights not women’s rights,

SaffronSpice · 25/01/2024 09:43

It is also worth considering the circumstances around which these guests appears. The TRAs were generally invited on to promote an agenda, the GC women because they were being abused and discriminated against.

WarriorN · 25/01/2024 10:10

Sounds like the lyrics of "Games without frontiers".

Grin
WarriorN · 25/01/2024 10:11

Oh marvellous boiled!

WinterTrees · 25/01/2024 10:43

SaffronSpice · 25/01/2024 09:43

It is also worth considering the circumstances around which these guests appears. The TRAs were generally invited on to promote an agenda, the GC women because they were being abused and discriminated against.

Yes, good point

duc748 · 25/01/2024 10:54

'Ally' seems such a creepy word, anyway, IIJM? How people (Zoe!) can use it about themselves unironically, I can't understand.

MrsTwatInAHat · 25/01/2024 10:55

Do interviewers let TW dig their own baritone holes?

I think I've heard this happen quite often on R4. Sometimes it seems an intelligent, experienced interviewer has been told they have to interview a TW or TRA without challenging TWAW etc., and so they do but use reasoned questioning to let the interviewee reveal their own lack of logic.