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BBC Woman's Hour guest list bias, trans-activists 43, gender sceptical 13 contact them to ask for representation of women and women's voices

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AlphariusOmegron · 24/01/2024 11:45

Every person in court fighting for gender critical beliefs (and winning) is a woman. This is a deeply misogynistic, regressive issue where women's voices are being taken away from them. Men, saying they are women, are telling women to shut up and get back in their boxes, that they are not what they think they are, that a man can tell you you're wrong and never be questioned.

From the Open University, to the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, women are being gaslit and the BBC, amongst others, is allowing it. Use your voice and get Womans hour, and the rest of the media to pay attention

Contact Woman's Hour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3xyZd5NjJZmN7WztP96vCG/contact-us

Detailed list of guests with names: https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1750102590564466909

https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1750102590564466909

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EasternStandard · 25/01/2024 11:13

MrsTwatInAHat · 25/01/2024 10:55

Do interviewers let TW dig their own baritone holes?

I think I've heard this happen quite often on R4. Sometimes it seems an intelligent, experienced interviewer has been told they have to interview a TW or TRA without challenging TWAW etc., and so they do but use reasoned questioning to let the interviewee reveal their own lack of logic.

Radio is a stark platform for this with speaking voices

Ramblingnamechanger · 25/01/2024 11:31

I had almost forgotten the car crash interviews on WH in the past ….i don’t really want reminding about items such as Grace Lavery who I really hope I never have to hear again.
unfortunately I am one of those writing regularly on this topic and whose emails never see the light of day. But this is a cracking bit of research… thank you

RethinkingLife · 25/01/2024 14:20

EasternStandard · 25/01/2024 06:51

The BBC is part of the problem

@WarriorN who is Peter Daly?

Class act. Superb double act with Ben Cooper. Sharer of due praise.

BBC Woman's Hour guest list bias,  trans-activists  43, gender sceptical 13 contact them to ask for representation of women and women's voices
Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2024 16:17

SinnerBoy · 25/01/2024 10:24

Boiledbeetle · Today 08:05

I think women are women, and men are men.
Yes! Even the men in tights!

These ones didn't think they were Maid Marians...

I do think of that every time I think men in tights!!

SinnerBoy · 25/01/2024 16:32

Well, ya would, wouldn't you?

AlisonDonut · 25/01/2024 19:23

BettyBooper · 24/01/2024 19:34

Debbie Hayton is a TW whose views support women's rights. https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/resources/prison-service-needs-work-facts-not-fiction

I agree that the bias here is heavily towards TRAs, but not all TW believe they are actually women.

No he does not support women's rights. He just jumped on the bandwagon to pretend to when it suited him.

He wrote the policies that got rid of single sex facilities in schools. He is no friend of females.

BettyBooper · 25/01/2024 21:03

SaffronSpice · 25/01/2024 09:39

Debbie Hayton supports Debbie Hayton’s rights not women’s rights,

Crikey! Way to smack down a lurker! Care to expand on that?

RethinkingLife · 25/01/2024 21:08

BettyBooper · 25/01/2024 21:03

Crikey! Way to smack down a lurker! Care to expand on that?

Other matters aside, reading through this thread might provide some context.

This thread has been astonishing. I thought the scales had fallen from my eyes several months ago and realise now the scales had only fallen from the scales. The process of burrowing down beneath the layers of gas lighting, compromising, desire to be kind and inclusive that have clouded the arguments and caused people to find these issues confusing is really a journey in understanding how massively the world is run by men, for men. I thought I knew that, but I didn’t really have a clue. I rarely post but I read avidly and am spreading the word in real life. Every single person I have spoken to about the implications of self ID gets it immediately. They just find it very hard to believe that the govt, the BBC, schools, the NHS, the prison service, the Girl Guides, political parties, sports bodies, local councils, psychologists have all abandoned rational belief and scientific knowledge and think men are actually women “because they say so”.

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3364094-Debbie-Hayton-in-the-Times

You look at the handful of men with gender dysphoria and how to include them, and wish, with all your heart, that it could be that simple again."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me?messages=100&pg=1

Debbie Hayton in the Times | Mumsnet

[[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-are-right-to-have-concerns-over-trans-reforms-5kj5k28sd?shareToken=aa090ad90f6f886db629247a0d6ca19b]]

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3364094-Debbie-Hayton-in-the-Times

RethinkingLife · 25/01/2024 21:11

Hayton's actions and some discussion arising from them.

"My thoughts are that, HYPOTHETICALLY, if 5 years ago a middle aged man had announced he was entering any and every private female space, whether children were present and undressed, or not, knew we expressly did not consent to his presence, and didn't care?
Well, I expect no amount of evidence of future 'allyship' to women's and girls rights would cause women to overlook that abuse.
And I'm not sure that there would be anything that hypothetical man could do, grow his hair, wear a skirt, or have surgery, that would make it acceptable for him to impose himself on female children and grown women despite their emphatic demand he doesn't.

A man who hears women and girls say no to him, and pushes right past that no, because he thinks he's entitled, all the while laughing, and publicly claiming that other men should not be able to do the same, knowing that where he leads, all similar men will follow ....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3605090-Boundaries-and-Allies

Boundaries and Allies | Mumsnet

I came across a post on Twitter which included what appears as a screenshot from a WhatsApp conversation with a gender critical ally. The image is att...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3605090-Boundaries-and-Allies

AlisonDonut · 26/01/2024 08:55

BettyBooper · 25/01/2024 21:03

Crikey! Way to smack down a lurker! Care to expand on that?

He wrote the policies that obliterated the rights of girls in school to single sex toilets and changing rooms.

As I said in the post above yours.

He is what we would call a 'forced teamer'. He gets in the moment things start to shift to make sure he is always cast as the great forward thinker.

In reality he is a very, very grim man. But of course we cannot tell you why because we will get deleted and banned.

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