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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival

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NorthernIrishFeminist · 23/01/2024 14:58

Employers seem to be slow learners when it comes to women's rights! There’s another employment tribunal case being brought by a woman who attended and took the microphone at a Let Women Speak event in Belfast last year and has been treated very badly by her employer Belfast Film Festival as a result.

Looks like we’re going to have to keep gardening until they get the message.

disclaimer. I don’t know Sara and have no connection to BFF I’m just a woman who likes donating to causes that make a difference

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MyrtleLion · 14/11/2025 12:35

Nick is writing an application to have the tribunal held in public in the interests of open justice. He hasn't posted for five minutes so I think that's what he's doing now.

Many thanks to @MarieDeGournay for posting from Nitter - it's in most recent first order, so makes sense if you read from the bottom of her posts. You'll see the @ and time info is included which I usually remove.

I was so busy writing how I manage to post that I missed this.

I am asked how I do it quite often so I have now saved a copy so I can post that very quickly in future.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:35

Judge is, to use NI vernacular "ragin'"

Not just ragin. Pure ragin. Observers all a bit shaken at being given out at, even though it wasn't aimed at us.

MarieDeGournay · 14/11/2025 12:35

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:34

Risen, yes.

Great, thanks NoBinturongsHereMate, I'll stand down from NWNitterwatch.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 14/11/2025 12:36

My word! The atmosphere in that room must be incredible, and not in a good way. 😬

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 14/11/2025 12:37

YouCantProveIt · 14/11/2025 12:15

Recusal

A recusal application is a formal request asking a judge to step down from a case because of a conflict of interest, actual bias, or a situation where a reasonable person could question their impartiality.

Such applications are made to ensure fairness and are based on principles like the need for a fair-minded observer to conclude there is a real possibility of bias. While dissatisfaction with rulings is not sufficient grounds, a successful application requires strong evidence of bias.

There’s been other cases this has happened in, IIRC, but not at this stage. Was Edward Lord not one of the panel members on an employment tribunal a few years ago, who refused to step down? I can’t remember which case it was. I’m sure there was another.

It’s all very ‘high drama’ isn’t it?

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 14/11/2025 12:37

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:35

Judge is, to use NI vernacular "ragin'"

Not just ragin. Pure ragin. Observers all a bit shaken at being given out at, even though it wasn't aimed at us.

My Dad says ‘giving out’, bless him. He’s from Dublin.

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:37

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:35

Judge is, to use NI vernacular "ragin'"

Not just ragin. Pure ragin. Observers all a bit shaken at being given out at, even though it wasn't aimed at us.

What can a Judge do in this situation? Can they throw a case out?

weegielass · 14/11/2025 12:38

scottish me loves the similar NI lingo. My grandad was from NI too.

Noo ah want a (play) piece and ah'm pure raging 'n all cause I wannae no whit the drama is.

MarieDeGournay · 14/11/2025 12:38

MyrtleLion · 14/11/2025 12:35

Nick is writing an application to have the tribunal held in public in the interests of open justice. He hasn't posted for five minutes so I think that's what he's doing now.

Many thanks to @MarieDeGournay for posting from Nitter - it's in most recent first order, so makes sense if you read from the bottom of her posts. You'll see the @ and time info is included which I usually remove.

I was so busy writing how I manage to post that I missed this.

I am asked how I do it quite often so I have now saved a copy so I can post that very quickly in future.

Edited

No problem, Myrtle, glad I could step in.

I usually remove all the times and put into chronological order too, but feck it, this time I just cut and pasted from Nitter in raw form, it was too dramatic to bother with reformatting!!

SionnachRuadh · 14/11/2025 12:39

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 14/11/2025 12:37

My Dad says ‘giving out’, bless him. He’s from Dublin.

I would say 'giving off', but our prepositions can be a bit wonky.

Now I'm in England, I think I'd get funny looks if I went into a chemist and said I need a bottle for throwing off.

MyrtleLion · 14/11/2025 12:40

MarieDeGournay · 14/11/2025 12:38

No problem, Myrtle, glad I could step in.

I usually remove all the times and put into chronological order too, but feck it, this time I just cut and pasted from Nitter in raw form, it was too dramatic to bother with reformatting!!

I totally agree! This is a team effort! ♥️

BendoftheBeginning · 14/11/2025 12:42

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:35

Judge is, to use NI vernacular "ragin'"

Not just ragin. Pure ragin. Observers all a bit shaken at being given out at, even though it wasn't aimed at us.

Hmm. Judgely anger at having a nicely timetabled and well-organised tribunal disrupted (and on a Friday!), or… something more defensive?

MyrtleLion · 14/11/2025 12:43

A note on next week, assuming the Tribunal continues. Nick posted that henis available to tweet:

From NW

I am delighted to tell you thank thanks to everyone's generosity, I am going to be able to cover the second week of Morrison v BFF in Belfast next week. I am deeply grateful to those who put their money down on trust for me to cover this week. To make it work...

... I've been living on pot noodles and breakfast oat pots (no change from home really) and conserving the donations to ensure I could make the outlay for next week viable. If you would like to get the nightly newsletters I've been sending...

... direct to your email inbox after each day at the tribunal, please do consider making a small donation now I can definitely see this through to a conclusion:

https://genderblog.net/donate/

For non-subscribers all the live-tweets are free, obvs and I will try to...

... get a first week summary up on the blog over the weekend. A lot has happened!

Thank you all v much for the feedback - emails and tweets etc. It means a lot. N

This is great news, but I have a dental appointment first thing on Monday, and I have to be in London on Wednesday and Thursday for a hospital appointment (for a different condition than my ankle, but it does affect my feet). I will also see some friends. And I have my usual Friday morning appointment till 1130.

So if the Tribunal continues next week please.can someone else paste NW's posts till noon on Monday, all day Wednesday and Thursday and Friday till 1130?

Donate

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NameChangeForThisOne5 · 14/11/2025 12:44

Has Nick Wallis deleted this mornings tweets?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:44

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:37

What can a Judge do in this situation? Can they throw a case out?

Don't see how that could be done. Justice must be served and a case brought must be dealt with.

If she (assuming she's not the subject of the recusal application) feels too furious to be impartial she could step down. I think they'd then have to start from scratch with a new judge.

Opinions from the legal brains on this thread would be very welcome.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 14/11/2025 12:44

I had a (very!) brief Twitter conversation with Our Most Beloved Queen Terf, about ‘whisht’, cos she didn’t know that the Irish also say it.

That was a good day. I told anyone who would listen!

thewaythatyoudoit · 14/11/2025 12:44

Sorry, Myrtle, I distracted you. You are amazing, and will have time for some fab knitting for a bit. This is bonkers

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:45

NameChangeForThisOne5 · 14/11/2025 12:44

Has Nick Wallis deleted this mornings tweets?

still there for me

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:46

@MyrtleLion Hope your appointments go well. I'll step in where I can x

MyrtleLion · 14/11/2025 12:47

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:45

still there for me

I thought he'd deleted them too but it was just a glitch. Try refreshing your feed.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:48

BendoftheBeginning · 14/11/2025 12:42

Hmm. Judgely anger at having a nicely timetabled and well-organised tribunal disrupted (and on a Friday!), or… something more defensive?

Option 1. She was spitting tacks before she knew it was a recusal application, and still doesn't know who or why.

She appeared very slightly mollified rather than further enraged once told the reason for the delay.

thewaythatyoudoit · 14/11/2025 12:49

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:44

Don't see how that could be done. Justice must be served and a case brought must be dealt with.

If she (assuming she's not the subject of the recusal application) feels too furious to be impartial she could step down. I think they'd then have to start from scratch with a new judge.

Opinions from the legal brains on this thread would be very welcome.

AFAIK the worst that could happen would be the judge making a complaint to the Bar. If not, and if you were practicing at the NI Bar, this would be very bad indeed, the judge isn't going to forget this. But NC and DE aren't at the NI Bar. Re the current case, it would mean just the judge won't cut them any slack as the case progresses, so they would have to be absolutely organised to a T

ILikeDungs · 14/11/2025 12:49

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 14/11/2025 12:37

There’s been other cases this has happened in, IIRC, but not at this stage. Was Edward Lord not one of the panel members on an employment tribunal a few years ago, who refused to step down? I can’t remember which case it was. I’m sure there was another.

It’s all very ‘high drama’ isn’t it?

That was Higgs V Farmors School I believe

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:49

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 12:48

Option 1. She was spitting tacks before she knew it was a recusal application, and still doesn't know who or why.

She appeared very slightly mollified rather than further enraged once told the reason for the delay.

Sounds like the money's on Deborah then.

BettyBooper · 14/11/2025 12:52

thewaythatyoudoit · 14/11/2025 12:49

AFAIK the worst that could happen would be the judge making a complaint to the Bar. If not, and if you were practicing at the NI Bar, this would be very bad indeed, the judge isn't going to forget this. But NC and DE aren't at the NI Bar. Re the current case, it would mean just the judge won't cut them any slack as the case progresses, so they would have to be absolutely organised to a T

NC must have something really important and nailed on, then, to take the risk.

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