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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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DerekFaker · 17/01/2024 09:49

This is so, so telling:

While growing up in Australia, Hewson tried to untangle their feeling without tools, but it “ate at” them. When puberty arrived with its bodily changes, they developed a “really nasty” case of anorexia. Through recovery, Hewson realized the eating disorder was in part a result of gender dysphoria — “a discomfort with and alienation from my body, and a need to control it or be in charge of it or shape it.” At that same time, around age 16, Hewson began learning about feminism and queer history, “reaching for information and community wherever I could find it.” They started to feel things click into place.

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Helleofabore · 17/01/2024 10:02

Isn’t teen Vogue now target to male trans people?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 10:05

I think it's targeted to all young people. It's genderist propaganda.

ClumsyNinja · 17/01/2024 10:07

She’ll likely regret those choices when she’s actually grown up. It’s ridiculous that the medical profession supports such nonsense.

DerekFaker · 17/01/2024 10:10

Teen Vogue has always been shallow, dangerous propaganda I suppose.

Here she is at the Emmys, showing off her chest again.

https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1747035914625593740?t=qhQ8f0vVKLEw2kwWly7PZg&s=19

https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1747035914625593740?s=19&t=qhQ8f0vVKLEw2kwWly7PZg

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CantDealwithChristmas · 17/01/2024 11:03

It's mad because if Teen Vogue had a cover feature about extreme dieting, with very thin models, in this day and age, they'd rightly be castigated. But promoting another form of bodily dysmorphia is just fine.

Also worth mentioning that breasts are the body part that anorexic women are often most concerned and dysphoric about. The EDt- trans pipeline is a real thing in young women and should be studied more.

NutsForMutts · 17/01/2024 13:08

Her poor breasts. What a shame. I wonder how they'd treat an epidemic of boob jobs, surely there would at least be a caveat about the medical dangers?
Agree that this is about girls not wanting themselves and their breasts to be public property, and having a sense of control, much like anorexia.

SirChenjins · 17/01/2024 13:17

FFS. A woman has her breasts cut off and Vogue are celebrating this? Angry No surprise about the anorexia sadly.

If she had decided she was now a black woman from Nigeria and plastic surgery and skin colouring treatment to give her those racial characteristics were widespread there would rightly be an outcry. Or ditto if she decided she was disabled and had her legs cut off. There is no cause for celebrating a non-medical double mastectomy on a young woman.

Mufflepuff · 17/01/2024 13:17

Odd isn't it that the treatment for one type of body dysphoria (anorexia) is so different to the treatment for another type (gender identity). Anorexic delusions are challenged and the body protected while gender delusions are affirmed and the body is surgically or chemically altered.

ZeldaFighter · 17/01/2024 13:20

Mufflepuff · 17/01/2024 13:17

Odd isn't it that the treatment for one type of body dysphoria (anorexia) is so different to the treatment for another type (gender identity). Anorexic delusions are challenged and the body protected while gender delusions are affirmed and the body is surgically or chemically altered.

Because boys and men don't really suffer from anorexia as much as those "silly" teenage girls.

ZeldaFighter · 17/01/2024 13:25

I felt uncomfortable with the stereotypical female roles. I'm loud, aggressive, opinionated - never in my life do I sit quietly and let the clever men speak - they're all way thicker than me! ;-) I love sci-fi, fantasy, James Bond, thrillers - I've never liked soaps or dramas and I usually hate rom-coms.

When I learnt more about feminism, I started to see gender roles as the boxes we're forced into. Step out of your box and be who you are in all your glory - but keep your tits!

In 10 years time, when her newborn is rooting for milk that will never come, she might realise what she's done.

AlisonDonut · 17/01/2024 13:27

She looks like my niece when she was about 10, just before puberty hit.

It's a feature not a bug.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 17/01/2024 13:30

That article (aimed at teenagers) describes her show as being "about the trauma of being a teenager and how we carry that trauma into adulthood". Why is the normal state of being a teenager, with all the struggles and challenges it brings, being described as being a trauma? It is so dangerous.

Jollyoldfruit · 17/01/2024 13:32

ClumsyNinja · 17/01/2024 10:07

She’ll likely regret those choices when she’s actually grown up. It’s ridiculous that the medical profession supports such nonsense.

She’s 28!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 17/01/2024 13:35

Is she / they famous for anything else?

Dexterwontstopfarting · 17/01/2024 13:42

they developed a “really nasty” case of anorexia.

Is there ever a nice case?

DuckDuckHen · 17/01/2024 13:50

CantDealwithChristmas · 17/01/2024 11:03

It's mad because if Teen Vogue had a cover feature about extreme dieting, with very thin models, in this day and age, they'd rightly be castigated. But promoting another form of bodily dysmorphia is just fine.

Also worth mentioning that breasts are the body part that anorexic women are often most concerned and dysphoric about. The EDt- trans pipeline is a real thing in young women and should be studied more.

Anecdotally the same girls and young women are affected by anorexia and/or gender issues.

The link with autism is well know for both issues, as are links with past abuse and mental illness.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 17/01/2024 13:57

Very difficult to disentangle cause and effect, isn't it? Oh well, at least Hewson has spotted that anorexia and gender dysmorphia both have the same underlying cause - a need for body control. Nothing to do with an innate gender identity.

happydappy2 · 17/01/2024 13:59

How come foot binding in China or FGM abroad is frowned upon yet removing healthy breasts in the west is celebrated?

TitusMoan · 17/01/2024 13:59

That reconstructed nipple is too high.

It’s all so unnecessary 😢

bellinisurge · 17/01/2024 14:00

She looks prepubescent. Which I guess is the look those people who egged her on were going for.

ScoldsBridle · 17/01/2024 14:04

Always someone comes along and says they’ll regret it. But you’ll seldom hear the voicing of regret - imagine allowing yourself to be regretful - yes, detransitioners exist but they are the mentally strong and brave ones. Who knows how many women actually regret but will never say.

I want to weep and scream at the same time. How on earth do you end up believing that having a surgeon cut away healthy flesh is in any way a good thing? It just seems to be fuelled by enormous resentment at having been born a female. Puberty arrives and suddenly it’s like Eve eating the apple and self-consciousness rearing its head. The sickening realisation that some process is now in train that will lead to sexual attention (wanted and/or unwanted), all the uncontrollable growth and shape shifting - and you just want to be an unselfconscious, in-control boy, able to run on the beach with your shirt off, free from the leering of men, living life without the encumbrances of feminity.

And yes, how apt that they talk about anorexia. How surgically neat and tidy it is to instead let someone else take a surgical scalpel to your body to exercise this ‘control’. Saving you the crumbling teeth, self-harm scars and endless hospital admissions.

I just saw a post on Instagram where two 19 year old female twins are stood smiling and bare chested showing off their fresh top-surgery scars. The surgeon or their mother (it’s in Spanish so I’m not sure) can be heard coo-ing with admiration.

I’m sick of all this. Truly sick.

LondonLass91 · 17/01/2024 14:08

She now still looks like a girl, albeit with scarred breasts. Why does the article say 'top surgery' too - using babyish language. Why not state 'breast removal'.

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TeaGinandFags · 17/01/2024 14:19

Strange the be kind brigade are alwsys so aggressive. Thete again, we all know about pointing fingers is about projection.