Liv Hewson, non binary actor with mastectomy in Teen Vogue

[DerekFaker]

Mother of God make this stop!!!

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/liv-hewson-profile-nonbinary

Yes, the similarities are so clear and the difference in treatment so glaring.

Agree. Normalising this for teens is the last thing Teen Vogue should do

All these complicit adults in damage

I see the photos as more validation but really really hate the need for all the photos because of social contagion. Young women and teens will have an idea planted that might never otherwise occur. It’s a hugely controversial area that desperately needs a measured approachhttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/18/new-nhs-childrens-gender-clinic-hit-by-disagreements-and-resignations from health professionals. Doesn’t look like that will happen soon….

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/18/new-nhs-childrens-gender-clinic-hit-by-disagreements-and-resignations

Apart from the lack of breasts every other 'feminine' pose has been adopted. Hair, body language, 'sexy' poses....

I think a lot of girls, at around about the age of 10, are in certain ways at their peak, and the dawning awareness that soon you will grow breasts and start to menstruate can come as a shock. It feels like the end of of innocence and freedom, and a sudden hiatus in ongoing journey of personal development.

The body can feel like one's fate - and you know that on account of it you will have to deal with certain types of expectation and experience. I can very much understand girls wanting to be frozen in pre pubertal stage - and that seems to me to be what motivates her.

I also think how impractical it must be, to have a woman-shaped body but no breasts (and no interest in breast forms). You’d have to live in lycra, or learn to sew. You’d never be able to wear a dress without retailoring it.

As someone who's very flat chested (slightly less so with weight gain at menopause but no need for a bra) it's not such a big deal. Plenty of clothes work with a flat chest.

Looks like a bad job too.

Loads of women wear clothes ok even if this shape I agree

It doesn’t necessitate tailoring etc

But the very obvious signal on normalising surgery for teens is the difference and very wrong

So this self harming elective amputee is allowed to show off her surgery scars and people are applauding.

And promoting it as ‘cool’ to the readers. I assume since it’s called ‘Teen Vogue’ its readership is pre teen girls (teen girls would pick up the grown up version ffs) and older men with, er, an ‘interest’ in teen girls…

This pretty much sums it up

Which reminds me… there is a house near me that is slap bang next to a school and has a flagpole in the roof, which overlooks the playground.

They change the flag a few times a year but it’s mostly the trans, that stripey purple one (non bino?) and pride extra.

im pretty sure you have to get planning permission for a pole and can only fly the Union Jack or foreign national flags (and have to apply to have say a corporate one up).

Call to the council I think… but then the council seems to splash a LOT of rainbow money around (we have a statue to the victims of trans murders).

Why has she got a tattoo of a gallbladder on her abdomen?

It's the next bit to come out. Transitioning to non-biliary.

😂

Brilliant! 😂

Ironically they all seem highly bilious.

The real problem here is with Teen Vogue. It's a magazine steering young girls into accepting misogyny of several different types and packaging that misogyny as human rights or being progressive.

Their earlier piece about anal sex for both prostate-owners and non-prostate owners was probably the peak for that. The illustrations of the two types of pelvis entirely erased the clitoris from the 'non-prostate owner' pelvis. So this type of human being was shown as not having any pleasure centres in their bodies (which probably made teaching them about anal sex easier, given that the goal was to turn girls more willing into accepting receiving it).

They published another story about how pornography could be enjoyed while feeling progressive and in agreement with all human rights and justice. Except the right of female human beings not to be turned into pieces of meat, of course.

The harmful and deep seated misogyny being dressed up as progressive makes me want to weep. That it’s being done to young women by other young women is that much worse.

Harm that they won’t realise until they’re older women with fecal incontinence due to damaged sphincters. Too late for either themselves or for the girls and young women they influenced.

Makes me want to weep too. Perhaps if she ever has a baby the gravity and irreversiblility of what she chose to inflict on herself will hit her.

That trained surgeons carry out these operations - these mutilations - beggars belief.

So so awfully sad. I just can't believe someone is proud of removing healthy flesh from their bodies and that anyone would facilitate or celebrate it.

I hate to think how she might look back on this in years to come.

I am confused now. Is Liv showing the scandalous female nipples or not?

I don't suppose we're allowed to think / say this but for some women their breasts/ nipples are almost as sexually sensitive as their clitorises. For me losing that sensation would be utterly devastating. But I didn't know that about myself in my early 20s because it took good quality sex with someone more focussed on female pleasure than reenacting porn to discover this.

So much about trans ideology seems to reinforce both the inherent and socially constructed power differentials between the sexes. But unlike, say, fundamentalist Christianity, it has got itself to the forefront of popular thinking, appropriating feminist terms as it goes. Thus making it even harder for young women today to truly understand themselves and their context in society.

Julie Burchill on Non Binary

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/19/the-luxury-of-being-nonbinary/

Good old Julie 😁 she's great, and well done her for standing up for lesbians

Well said Julie 👏

She doesn't look non-binary (whatever that means) she looks like a sexualised child. It's quite disturbing.