Another GC employment tribunal. Adam's vs Edinburgh Rape Crsis

[Rainbowshit]

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Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

I'm suspecting some rewriting of history here!!

She's no Roz Adams, is she?

MR: I felt given the mistake in the letter RA must have been hurt and upset by that and it caused me regret in run up to mtg. Making no comment on veracity or truth of content, I felt how I would feel if I received the letter. Wanted mtg to feel as secure for RA as possible.

[She is speaking v carefully here. Feels slippery.]

MR: I typed it by listening carefully to recording. It was days and days and days of work for me fitted around other [serious] family commitments.

Why on earth wasn't that outsourced? It's unreasonable to expect the Chair (any member) to act as the post-hoc transcriber and ethically, given the sensitivity, a neutral 3rd party transcription service would have been an appropriate course of action.

There's an inflection in her voice as well when she answers that she's in a way asking him if that's the correct answer? (I'm not sure I'm explaining that well)

I know what you mean,I've heard police officers do the same thing in court.

It's very irritating. I'm sure she would be peppering 'if you understand my meaning?' in regularly if it wouldn't seem so unprofessional in this setting.

DH: Comment by another panel member - 'obviously scope of investigation

MR: The investigation report indicated investigation started with narrow remit/events and during the investigation subsequent allegations had been made. There was a sense of obligation to investigate the allegations as well. Substance of subsequent allegations - much of these had been during safe spaces/training spaces. It was difficult to make conclusions about what was in those expanded allegations so we were focusing on the initial events.

yup - let's hope this gets picked up on by NC

I hope NC asks her exactly how much 'a little bit of time' actually took.

that is absolutely stunning. "we put the employee through hell because of 'gross misconduct' then realised that was wrong so changed it but didn't tell anyone in case they found out we're utter cunts" is what she should have said.

Let's hope the tribunal panel noticed that actually that was exactly what she inferred by the words she said!!

After getting advice, disciplinary was 'paused' - from Oct 18th until Feb 2 😯

MR - it was a long meeting.

DH: did you seek advice c how RA should advance her grievance.

MR: checked the grievance procedure and told RA. She said she preferred to send it to a board member, it took me some time to try to find out who that would be [!] and by then RA had decided to send it.

DH: Did you seek advice on impact of grievance on disciplinary process.

MR: Yes. We paused discip process completely - from Oct to Feb.

DH: During that time, did you take any action re disciplinary.

MR: No. Had drafted letter but nothing was sent out. I slowly worked on the transcript.

thanks all- to be honest @Boiledbeetle the ‘wtf’s are as illuminating as the tribunal thread. I get lost so need the commentary to orient me! I’ll try and keep up today.

This is disgraceful. I hope she's cringing herself inside out at even having to try and account for her actions.

They obviously dragged the process out, after all the process is the punishment as we all know!

A weakness here is that MR is simply justifying the process they followed. NC will likely ask whether they considered the impact on RA in terms of what they did.

That little laugh. 😑

'I do remember exactly when that was!' (to the minute) - unfortunately all other detail is shrouded in thick fog.

DH: outcome letter for the appeal.

MR: I didn't have sight of that letter.

DH: was anything conveyed to you advising what the conclusion of the grievance appeal had been?

MR: No.

DH: How did you find out.

MR: text and email from Elaine and RA. I drafted an outcome letter - hadn't been given any guidance to do anything else - I drafted it at 7pm and sent it to rest of the panel asking them to respond by 7am the next day*. We agreed with letter, I took advice on it, and then sent to RA asap to try to draw everything to a conclusion.

*shades of previous tribunals with lawyers working Ever So Hard

Delores Umbridge type?

They're so busy and important!

Witnesses don't give written statements in Scottish tribunals.