School Guidance out Tomorrow

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I don't have time to read this fully right now, but it sounds messy:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/789e1fd3-4a82-4b71-a0bf-e165b5f410b1?shareToken=054150e42690555c0ffe751a53776e92

It's clear that children at primary school are not to be changing pronouns.

Finally: Gender questioning children: draft schools and colleges guidance www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4966230-finally-gender-questioning-children-draft-schools-and-colleges-guidance

this is interesting ..

‘Some teachers have said they will not observe the new guidance, which is not statutory, because it could put children at risk. They claim families informed that their child has socially transitioned at school are removing and home-educating them because they believe their trans identity is down to social contagion.’

this is actually parents safeguarding their children from school and peer pressure at school. It’s extremely likely the parent was acting in the best interests of their child to protect them, given the brain washing in some schools.

The article goes on to tell a story of one suicidal child who was placed in another school. It infers the parents, lack of social screen time and change of school are at fault for mental health issues when the reality is that children claim to be trans on the back of existing mental health issues. Working with numerous trans teens my experience has made me aware of peer pressure, the autism and puberty link, the trauma and SA link, weak educational guidance, woke washed teachers in positions of power. It seems such a toxic mess for parents to help navigate.

Kevin Sexton didn't sound very bright to me. All the buzzwords, not much engagement of brain. No surprise the school is a Stonewall champion. His statement about teachers finding employment at another school If they don't use preferred pronouns was rather chilling. I wonder if the governors are aware of the Forstater judgment. Or how Stonewall's response to one of their own being sued is to say 'nothing to do with us mate'.

This is all so fucking stupid.

What a fucking mess it all is. I work in mental health and the amount of young people I see who claims to be trans is truly alarming. And so many of them tell me stories about "passing" with what could almost be described as religious fervour?! They also vilify any teaching staff who mis pronoun them and use this as a reason to not attend school. I wouldnt be a teacher for a million quid.

Thank you @WarriorN for the link to the guidance.

After a first read, that is a lot better than I thought it might be. It's careful, nuanced and centres an awareness of children's developmental needs with safeguarding repeatedly cited. The government make clear that schools are expected to follow it (same with all non stat guidance - if a school ignores it they must have very good reasons why). It resets the balance by insisting that parents must be involved in all these decisions (unbelievable I even have to write that). I think it gives parents a lot more power to challenge out of control transactivism in a school.

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/supporting_documents/Gender%20Questioning%20Children%20%20nonstatutory%20guidance.pdf

The guidance states that pronouns should not be changed in primary schools.It also states:
"It is expected that there will be very few occasions in which a school or college will be able to agree to a change of pronouns. On these rare occasions, no teacher or pupil should be compelled to use these preferred pronouns and it should not prevent teachers from referring to children collectively as ‘girls’ or ‘boys,’ even in the presence of a child that has been allowed to change their pronouns".

They do if they’re fed stereotypical gender bullshit (with the help of rainbow trans books and such like) by the adults around them.

So depressing. The bloody stereotypes are more real than the actual child for these people. Imagine promoting the idea that pink = girl as progressive.

Mr Sexton told Emma Barnett he hadn't read the guidance yet. Not that it stopped him from taking a position. It would be interesting to know his response to that particular passage. I hope someone puts it to him.

Of course it didn’t stop him from going all over the media stating his position.

Engaging with he actual facts is unnecessary. He’s got ideological zeal.

James O’Brien phone in now *sigh

Sexton will be eating his hat/ humble pie now imo.

Sexton will be eating his hat/ humble pie now imo.

I don't think he will. He's a dangerous man.

"My heart is pink." Said child in nursery.

All hearts are pink, aren't they? Or pinkish-red, anyway.

Spot on re the “indigo” children. Having an “indigo” child was quite the thing in certain online “not like the other mums” communities about 15 years ago. Not any more though.

Absolutely tons of cards, wrapping paper, and other items decorated with pink hearts out there. Why wouldn’t a toddler or pre-schooler think hearts are pink?

Twenty years ago a toddler or pre-schooler saying that would mean nothing other than they think hearts look like the heart motifs you see on decorations.

The parent is an attention seeking idiot.

Well the evidence is adding up quite nicely and being led all over all the general public's awareness.

Many of the parents pushing for this are quite interesting in their attitudes and beliefs, shall we say? And some of the senior leadership are frankly demonstrating religious extremism and intolerance, and using their position of trust to enforce this upon children, teaching it as the One True Faith with punishment for heresy.

I'm sure Kemi's taking notes; the evidence is going to be needed to prove why, eventually, this IS going to have to be law and statutory. I'll also at this point place a bet that eventually Prevent is going to have to get involved.

https://www.chesterfieldhigh.org.uk/Wellbeing/Tackling-Hate-Crime-and-Discrimination/

Chesterfield High School has become a Stonewall Champion school; this has involved the school creating a whole school action plan to tackle homophobia and ensure that our school is a safe place for everyone – students, staff, parents, carers and all our many visitors.

It goes on further.

ensure that our school is a safe place for everyone – students, staff, parents, carers and all our many visitors.

Excepting the female ones, the homosexual ones, the ones with faiths and cultures and disabilities that require single sex provisions to be respected for equality of accessibility, and anyone who does not perform compliance with the head teacher's personal religious faith.

You can see why Badenogh put out the updated guidance yesterday. The CPD has been given, the information is clear: if it's refused at this point then it is not lack of information, it is wilful refusal based on a personal choice to enact personal faith instead of law while in a position of trust with children.

And gosh won't that be interesting in a court room. 'I identify as being right' hasn't worked too well so far.

For the teachers and schools saying they won't follow the guidance, how will that even work. Will they be able to force every teacher and child in the school to go along with the fantasy and use preferred name and pronouns as social transition needs compliance from everyone.

I worked in a place with a nursery. A three year old boy was marching about with a teddy shoved up his jumper yelling ‘I’m a mummy!’ ‘I have a baby in my tummy!’

kittle kids do have active imaginations.

‘Safe’ I’m hearing a lot of people use this word when they evidently don’t know the meaning of the word.

’safe’ means - NOT being bombed, massacred, living on the streets, etc and NOT hearing the truth you don’t want to hear (lalalalalala my fingers are in my ears.

law of HoneyBP ‘Some people are jerks - don’t be a jerk.’

The guidance doesn't appear to say what to do with kids who have already socially transitioned at school?

Listening to that interview he said he would deal with it on a case by case basis and not tell the parent if there was a safeguarding risk ie impacting the safety of the child. Most of the time he said the parents are involved. Isn’t that basically similar to the guidance?

He also said his staff aren’t pressured into using pronouns but most do out of respect and so children feel supported and able to learn.

It does seem like so many are wanting to look for division and emphasise the extremes. (I know it’s not just some GC people many TRAs do as well).