Female to male transition.

[CurlewKate]

Is there any research-or even discussion about the rate and outcome of female to male transition? Any high profile cases? I know about Elliot Page of course. And Buck Angel. But any business people? Anyone in the army? Anyone on TV that I may not have spotted?

Not much since the attempt to cancel Lisa Littman unfortunately. But there is some evidence that suggests the following:

• FtM transition desire has high correlation with autism, child sexual abuse, and/or social contagion
• Phalloplasty has a 70% complication rate necesseitating at least 2 corrective surgeries. It also appears to have severe urological long term adverse effects but it'll take a few years for these to really be understood because the surgery is so new
• Desistance/regret seems to be quite high

Sources for these on KiwiFarms, SRS thread - sourced to (very limited) academic studies and anecdotal evidence from clinicians

I heard Jesse Darling being interviewed on Today earlier. The Palestinian flag incident was not mentioned, and I'm sorry to hear it. I thought Darling came across well otherwise. Modern art is not my bag, so I know nothing about the artistic merits or otherwise of Darling's work. It was refreshing, though, to hear a transman being interviewed without a single reference to gender identity - Nick Robinson's focus was entirely on the work and on Darling's decision to live in Berlin rather than the UK.

Going back to Chaz Bono: if you don't know, Chastity Bono is the born-daughter of Cher & Sonny Bono, announced she was a lesbian which Cher (reportedly) refused to accept, they were NC for some time, then Chaz emerged - a transman.

Obviously a lot of family stuff going on there.

Yes it was the same on R4’s Front Row. I’ll admit my ears pricked up when I heard them speaking, but it’s only since seeing this thread that it’s confirmed they’re trans.

Looking forward to next year's winner waving an adult human female banner ...

There definitely seems to be social contagion in Brighton.

I can't understand how anyone with two brain cells can deny the social contagion that's obviously such a huge part of the rise in numbers among girls. I and every other parent of a DD I've talked to about it has experienced their DD going through a phase of everyone in the friendship group having to identify as LGBTQI++ or else you're not cool. Usually aged 10-12 and usually they then move on from it. But if it's affirmed by adults, and the girl is encouraged to see it as a real solution to normal adolescent woes, or is drawn in by the praise and adulation (especially if she previously felt left out, unattractive etc - or didn't fit in like many girls with autism) then she's going to end up keeping on down that pathway.

My DD's friends all bought the right flags and badges for their "queer" identities. My DD told me she'd "chosen" bi, and I could see why - she didn't have to prove anything or do anything and it was easiest. This is a group of about 10 girls with generally mainstream interests and styles, not even tomboys. Over 90% of them will be straight statistically. I asked if anyone had "chosen" straight and she said no of course not, you can't be straight.

I am bloody relieved I kept my cool and just went "hmm-hmmm" and she grew out of it, they all did. One persisted with being a trans boy for a while longer but it was so clear she had no interest in being a boy. She was just miserable about her parents' divorce and needed support and something to make herself feel more important and listened to, or a way to escape from herself. She never wanted to be in the boy's toilets, with the boys on a school trip or anything.

Obviously I have no issue with my DD being bi or gay or whatever, if she actually is, when she's of an age for it to be relevant. But them all deciding they were LGBTQ at 10 is CLEARLY social contagion, mindlessly encouraged by school.

If there are far fewer transboys in Brighton compared to transgirls, is that because Brighton might be one of the few places in the UK where there are visible role models for girls just starting to feel they might be lesbians? Obviously there must be any number of role models for young gay boys there as well, though, so maybe that theory falls down.

There was a Netflix documentary about a skateboarder named Leo something, it was quite boring so I didn't finish it. Apparently sponsorships dried up when he transitioned.