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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone else’s work celebrating trans week/day of remembrance?

67 replies

HoneyButterPopcorn · 15/11/2023 09:10

We are. I’m not exactly sure what it entails or what we are remembering, and haven’t dare ask.

It seems like blind faith drives these things. I’ll try not to disturb anyone with questions or facts.

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Pan2 · 15/11/2023 14:28

The civil service often do a single candle burning sort of picture like the armistice. Lest we forget. As if any of us ever can.

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:36

I am so tempted to respond "Thoughts and Prayers " but that might get me kicked out of my work women's group, which thankfully still remains woman focused.

GardenCherisher · 15/11/2023 14:36

My old work were admirably devoted to THE ACTUAL BUSINESS and had vanishingly little of this type of thing. If you were civil, professional, and diligent that was all they cared about.

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:39

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:25

Oh gosh yes was almost tempted to start a thread about this myself.

There is a solemn post about it on our internal media page and it's taken every inch of my self control not to ask how many deaths we are talking about here. It's in horrendously poor taste considering what's actually going on in the world right now.

The heartening thing is that the post has had very few likes or comments about it, so I think most folk are just ignoring it.

This is actually a really good point.

I wonder what the response would be if you gave some feedback saying, "I think this is in poor taste given that the number of trans people murdered in the UK is less than one per year on average and the best data we have indicates that, Brazilian sex workers excluded, trans people actually appear to be less at risk of being murdered than any other demographic. By contrast, in the UK, two to three women are murdered every week by their male partner, around 250 people are stabbed to death every year (of which around 40% are teenagers or young adults, mostly from disadvantaged backgrounds), and further afield we are witnessing an actual genocide playing out in real time in the Middle East. Since we are not having remembrance events for any of these groups of people, I can't help but question why we are having one for a group of people who are not actually being killed in statistically significant numbers. We have members of staff who are Muslim and Jewish, and no doubt female members of staff who have been the victims of male violence. Perhaps the diversity, equality and inclusion team should think about including those people from time to time instead of just focusing on one group."

Beowulfa · 15/11/2023 14:42

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:10

I'd be so tempted to suggest holding a remembrance ceremony where a candle is lit for every trans person who has been murdered in the UK this year.

At least you wouldn't be in danger of setting off the smoke alarm.

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:47

@MargotBamborough I'd love to be brave enough to post that, but I'm too young to retire, and too old to be fired.

I'm just so sad because this rubbish is being posted by people who have previously been quite senior in our women's group, I can't believe such seemingly intelligent people genuinely believe this.

MargotBamborough · 15/11/2023 14:52

Beowulfa · 15/11/2023 14:42

At least you wouldn't be in danger of setting off the smoke alarm.

Ah, but then after your moving ceremony where precisely one candle was lit, you could then send an enthusiastic email to the head of DEI saying that since the candlelight vigil for trans murder victims was so successful, you'd like to hold one for women killed by male violence next month. Then wait for them to say you can't do it because lighting that many candles would be against the fire regs.

Lottapianos · 15/11/2023 14:58

'Belief tree? What the hell - is this in nursery? Or are actual adults doing this?'

I KNOW!!! It's all so childish. I used to work in nurseries, with children who need a lot of help with navigating relationships and boundaries, because they're CHILDREN. So we used to use phrases like 'gentle hands Tommy' and 'we are KIND to our friends, Jaimie'. All perfectly fine when it's tiny children, but now I see the same crap being directed at adults, with #bekind, and trite nonsense like 'in a world where you can be anything, be kind' 🙄🤢

Justcallmebebes · 15/11/2023 16:18

WickedSerious · 15/11/2023 14:08

You won't be laying a wreath at the coffee machine then?

Hah. May dig out my finest mourning black for the occasion Grin

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 15/11/2023 16:32

I hope your work celebrate other days too. Fml. For example, International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women is coming up on 25 November. And don't forget international women's day.

SerafinasGoose · 15/11/2023 16:35

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 15/11/2023 16:32

I hope your work celebrate other days too. Fml. For example, International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women is coming up on 25 November. And don't forget international women's day.

They want those too.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 15/11/2023 16:44

Yes. Don’t forget all the women 🙄 wheeled out for these occasions.

In Canada they have a person who pops up at such days (including the memorial day of the shooting of only women at a university campus - where men were told to leave by the shooter).

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Isthisreasonable · 15/11/2023 17:36

I'd put a tag on the tree "Celebrating the trans community being the safest demographic in the UK"

NotTerfNorCis · 15/11/2023 17:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/11/2023 09:48

I think against the backdrop of what's going on in the Middle East, this is going to fall flat with most people. Look at Sadiq Khan and the ratio on this. 1300 people liked, 16 million views. Roughly 8 people in every 100k.

x.com/mayoroflondon/status/1724107499437994305?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

Yes that was one of the biggest indicators that the mood has definitely changed.

This unwarranted victim-martyr complex looks even worse in the current context.

SamW98 · 15/11/2023 17:47

No. It’s times like this I’m thankful I work in an industry where this sort of thing doesn’t even enter our radar.

We come in to our job barely interact with anyone outside our own team then go home.

SerafinasGoose · 16/11/2023 09:08

We've got belief week.

Begs the question why such a week is needed in the first place. 'You WILL believe! You will, you will, you will!'

Don't believe? You're a heretic.

I've never in my life seen a 'belief week' devoted to any other ideology, including the monotheistic religions. This is really desperate stuff.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 16/11/2023 09:22

Social engineering. I refuse to play.

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vernatheraven · 16/11/2023 09:24

@JaxiiTaxii you must post a pic if you wake the tree

NitroNine · 16/11/2023 09:27

This thread keeps giving me an earworm of (I thought I’d left it behind at school, but apparently not 😬). I don’t think that even if they believe really hard & wish on ALL the stars TRAs are going to get the genital swapping surgeries they’re now being promised are just around the corner 🤦‍♀️

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/11/2023 09:47

"Trans awareness week" neatly contains international men's day on 19th.

Needmoresleep · 16/11/2023 09:50

Slightly different but on the agenda for DH's work's big departmental meeting was an item called 'show and tell'. A point where each of them were supposed to say a bit about what they were doing. He has no idea why it was called that. Almost all his colleagues were educated overseas. He brought in his childhood Teddy bear. Got a special mention from the Director for 'his sense of humour'. (Subtext probably: the British have a sense of humour but nine of us understand it.)

Go for the green and purple decoration. Better still find a fairy for the tree that looks like Posie/Marilyn and give her a Standing for Women TShirt.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/11/2023 09:54

Better still find a fairy for the tree that looks like Posie/Marilyn and give her a Standing for Women TShirt.

That's a great new product idea for KJK and SFW!

Farmageddon · 16/11/2023 10:16

rookiemere · 15/11/2023 14:47

@MargotBamborough I'd love to be brave enough to post that, but I'm too young to retire, and too old to be fired.

I'm just so sad because this rubbish is being posted by people who have previously been quite senior in our women's group, I can't believe such seemingly intelligent people genuinely believe this.

I'm not sure how much they actually believe, versus how much they think they are supposed to say and do all this shit to prove how nice they are. There seems to be a few bad actors, and a whole lots of neutrals going along with it or not challenging it for an easier life (I'm in this group).

I work in a small charity (the charity sector is rife with this crap), and it's mainly one women who is pushing this heavily - despite our charity being about a condition that is nothing to do with sex or gender. I just try and ignore but she seems to bring it up more and more, like she's on a mission.

I'm not sure how on board the CEO is really, however like you said if you question it you are immediately a bigot and horrible person.

Rollingdownland · 16/11/2023 10:18

We don't have this nonsense at my work thank God. Everyone in there is pretty sane of mind. Long may it last.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 16/11/2023 10:20

JaxiiTaxii · 15/11/2023 09:36

We've got belief week. I wonder if that's the 'lite' version? Unusual because my work is a hotbed of wokeness.

Theres a box of craft resources and we have been asked to make a decoration for the belief tree 🤓

I mean. Its oddly sweet in an organisation that takes itself extremely seriously.

But the temptation to cause a stink and make a point by doing a green & purple GC belief decoration is strong.

It would be such a beautiful decoration too