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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

John Oliver has become a terf?

33 replies

EllaMenopee · 08/11/2023 22:35

I stopped watching Last Week tonight after an appalling episode about trans kids/bathroom bills a few years ago, but dh was watching this latest one about abortion and i couldn't believe my ears...it is actually about women. He says the words woman and mother repeatedly. Amazing

*I still think John Oliver is a smug, right on, right side of history dude bro and I find his deliberate lack of understanding about women's concerns repulsive.

Abortion Rights: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

John Oliver discusses the ongoing fallout from the overturning of Roe v. Wade as the November elections approach.Connect with Last Week Tonight online... Sub...

https://youtu.be/6eH2BItdo0M?si=uss8I5DTx2hbKUeS

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Crankywiddershins · 08/11/2023 22:41

Oh thank goodness that we have a man here to discuss the very important men's rights issue of abortion. Good for him.

LemonLymanDotCom · 08/11/2023 22:57

Oooh I love a bit of John Oliver, AKA the Jolliver, well in our house anyways) Followed him from his Bugle days - fuck you Chris. A shame our late night, satirical type TV has never taken off in the same way in the UK as it has in the US.

MathsIs · 08/11/2023 23:01

Could you summarise?

John Oliver has become a terf?
Circumferences · 08/11/2023 23:08

No
He hasn't.
HTH.

donquixotedelamancha · 08/11/2023 23:13

Nah, he's still a Genderist. Thing is, he also supports women's rights and has just never had to think through the inconsistencies.

EllaMenopee · 08/11/2023 23:32

donquixotedelamancha · 08/11/2023 23:13

Nah, he's still a Genderist. Thing is, he also supports women's rights and has just never had to think through the inconsistencies.

Clearly my snark did not translate 😂
This is what I was getting at. It is so infuriating. Also had a quick look through some of the YT comments and didn't see any rebuking him for his use of clear language about this impacting on women and mothers.

@MathsIs he was discussing the implications of state abortion bans following the Roe v Wade reversal, in light of some upcoming elections including 2024. (I'll be honest, I zoned out for some of it, he's generally not good for my blood pressure)

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Boomboom22 · 08/11/2023 23:36

If he ever looks into the pharma side he'll turn terf immediately. Is there a way to suggest topics? Yeets and teets Dr maybe?

Hansella567 · 08/11/2023 23:38

I think he is smug leftist prick. His comedy reminds me of a sanctimonious lecture with more clapping than laughing.

If he has changed his mind it would be a sign that the direction of the wind is changing.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 09/11/2023 00:06

I can't watch him anymore after one of his unfunny rants about poor 'trans kids' andtheir desperately needed affirmative healthcare. and how mean and bigoted women and girls are for not wanting to share toilets or compete in sports against men.

MathsIs · 09/11/2023 00:34

Thank you, @EllaMenopee

TempestTost · 09/11/2023 00:55

Hansella567 · 08/11/2023 23:38

I think he is smug leftist prick. His comedy reminds me of a sanctimonious lecture with more clapping than laughing.

If he has changed his mind it would be a sign that the direction of the wind is changing.

Yes, this. Trevor Noah is the same. There doesn't seem to be any actual humour. Just -" look at this stupid person."

AvacadoFieldsForever · 09/11/2023 02:00

When it suits the narrative of course he can use the words women and females and be a right on feminist.

In the same breath he’ll look you right in the eye and tell you there’s no difference and women can have a penis, only the far right go on about sex, people with cervix’s don’t need a collective word etc.

More woke washing.

qwertyuiopasdfgh · 09/11/2023 08:46

prick. major disappointment for me. i used to like watching him.

FreddysSquishyBollock · 09/11/2023 11:26

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greenacrylicpaint · 09/11/2023 11:32

he is an annoying mansplainer...
but for some reason my teens love him.

gives us a lot to talk about though. about looking at different sources etc

FreddysSquishyBollock · 09/11/2023 11:48

Dear MN - neither John Oliver nor John Stewart are here so how is my
above post offensive? Please reconsider.

mirax · 09/11/2023 12:44

Noah can be funny when he is NOT doing politics. He has a good ear for other languages and cultural foibles. He did a recent stand up on the shambolic show he had in bangalore that was seriously funny and had the audience eating out of his hand. Oliver - is just your typical wet British lefty, no range and seriously unfunny.

TheresaOfAvila · 10/11/2023 08:15

His Trans Kids piece will undoubtedly come back to haunt him.
Cheerleading teenagers to get their genitalia cut off so you can feel good about yourself is always only going to have a limited shelf-life.

CliantheLang · 11/11/2023 14:15

We had local elections last week and the Democrats did very well on the issue of reproductive rights.

The fact the the Republicans sold out to the religious right and are being deliberately stupid* about abortion is their achilles heel. The Dems are going to exploit it for all it's worth while ignoring the fact that they had 50+ years to codify Roe and somehow "forgot" to do it. Because Lucy and the football

*The GOP used to be the party of women's rights and small government. The first woman in Congress, Jeannette Rankin, was a Republican.

GasDrivenNun · 11/11/2023 16:41

Not concentrating properly this afternoon so I read....Jamie Oliver.....a TERF?

Lottapianos · 11/11/2023 17:14

'major disappointment for me. i used to like watching him.'

Same here. And I REALLY used to love Jon Stewart but he's full of the same shit. How are they going to save face when the wind has fully changed, and 'gender affirming healthcare ' is seen as the outrage that it is?

Brewdug · 20/11/2024 12:56

Reviving this old thread as I knew there'd been plenty about him before. Deftly handled by JKR as always, and interesting to see the rhetoric dialled down a notch in Variety.

On X almost all the comments I saw under their post of this story were pro-JKR.

variety.com/2024/digital/global/jk-rowling-john-oliver-spouts-bullshit-trans-athletes-womens-sports-1236214151/

MarieDeGournay · 20/11/2024 13:34

John Oliver has become a terf?
No more than the similar Seth Mayer, who recently complained about the Democrats 'throwing trans people under the bus' in the wake of the Harris defeat.

Their support for abortion rights for women is probably dependent on guaranteed abortion rights for transwomen🙄

BarbaraHoward · 20/11/2024 13:37

John Oliver is one of the good guys. As indeed are Seth Meyers and Jon Stewart. And Colbert.

andIsaid · 20/11/2024 14:07

He is such a dick head.

"Vanishingly small" - not true but if it was how many would be a good number for you John Oliver?

He has sons, so he has no skin in the game.

JK is right - the "believe the science" guys are bloody worst on this.

They are the equivalent of the climate change deniers.