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[Notaflippinclue]

Why the fuck has MUMSNET cancelled her

Never have i felt such an urge to flounce!

Cooked lettuce!!!

What the fuck is wrong with you people

(Wonders if cooked lettuce tastes nicer than raw lettuce)

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Well I’ve made soup tonight so something good has come from all this (for me, at least.)

Lettuce be clear. Lettuce is not food. Lettuce is what food eats.

There has been some really useful info shared on abuse and abusers. Thank you.

Also thank you for the acknowledgements about the difficult path that parents who are caught up in this are treading. This board has been an absolute lifeline on this front, being able to explore the whole (massive) subject relating to gender identity belief.

There are so many people that come here who are at various different stages of peaking. There are also several posters - not just me - who have said that they find that debating on threads helps with gathering thoughts and understanding different aspects of why things have come to be the way that they are. In the time that I've been on this board, several debate-style threads have come and gone.

If you want to debate these men, maybe find another space to do it, not critise women for not wanting to do it here.

I'm not sure how the impression was created that I've criticised women for not wanting to do debate. I don't feel critical of anyone who doesn't want to do this. Perhaps this was an unintended consequence of me saying that IMO debate is better than no debate. I certainly don't expect any magic societal change to happen off the back of a TRA coming on to MN but I do think that the debates that have happened on here (mostly without any TRA in them at all, or with a plop and run post at most) have helped to unfold lots of different aspects of the impact of gender identity in society. The Be Kind movement is still in full swing in the public discourse and these threads are really helpful as a start point for many people. That's not just my opinion, I've seen it stated on these types of threads.

Anyway, lots of food for thought on abuse and abusers. I've had a read of some of it already and will read more later.

As a palate cleanser, @BonfireLady , have a read of the thread BoiledBeetle linked to on the previous page. An alternative way of dealing with the me-me-me-ness of our TRA visitors and very much funnier than debating/appeasing them.

Which thread did Alf finally flounce on? (Was it this one I might have missed the middle of it?)

Here you go @TinselAngel .

Page 6 of this thread.

Should there be a link Mavis?

Oh you mean this thread we're on?

Yes, edited to say that, sorry.

Oh god now I see you've quoted the post! I've had a long day.

I like the bit where he talks about himself in the third person thereby leaving things open for a name change.

Just wanted to say I lurk on your thread, Tinsel, having found it a few months ago for the Vaishnavi Sundar links. Never felt able to post without having personal experience. Obviously Alf thought he had the experience to join in.

I think the third person bollocks was simply to get a few more “shes” and “hers” in before they left. Harder to draw attention to one’s womanliness with I/me/mine.

They can't bear there being somewhere just for us that they can't influence.

This one but i suspect he will be back. By the way, lettuce without a shit ton of mayo is wrong in every way

I often wonder if all the Malaga Airport FWR ploppers are one person who keeps name changing.

There are also several posters - not just me - who have said that they find that debating on threads helps with gathering thoughts and understanding different aspects of why things have come to be the way that they are. In the time that I've been on this board, several debate-style threads have come and gone.

Bonfire agree that a real debate, where both sides engage with each other and with the arguments being presented, can be very helpful. But the thing is, I read a large number of Alpha's posts and not once can I remember seeing any attempt to do that.

Yeah, that's a fair point.

I think the third person bollocks was simply to get a few more “shes” and “hers” in before they left. Harder to draw attention to one’s womanliness with I/me/mine.

Yes, exactly this.

A palette cleanser sounds perfect. I will indeed.

As much as I do tend towards "reasonable and balanced" when I'm posting on here (because I find it helps me to get my thoughts out and take in what others are saying), I have a weak spot for all things funny. I'm still mindful that some people really do have distress from gender dysphoria but there are some situations where a good dose of humour is exactly what's needed.

That was quite the emotional ride but I do understand that it comes from a good and supportive place, where women lift up other women. Thankfully this time around (when things get difficult) I didn't even cry once 😬👍

I missed that thread on Saturday. I definitely get the impression that Alpha enjoyed being told to fuck on here. Which is why I think he'll be back.

With a less blokey name no doubt Betamax maybe?

Don't give him any ideas! And Ive just realised that I missed an "off" from my post!