Green Party Women under attack

[Toomie]

Can anyone help explain what's happening with Green Party Women and the Green Women's Declaration? I've looked for a thread on here but can't find anything. Apologies if I've managed to miss it.

I'm a long-standing member of the Green Party, though not v active. There have been a lot of emails arriving in the last couple of days from people on both sides and it sounds as though things are blowing up.

I haven't been able to keep up-to-date with what's happening but get the gist of it - attempted (illegal?) booting out and silencing of GC people, that doesn't appear to have worked and has backfired fairly spectacularly.

I'd really like to understand the background and what ordinary members can do to support the GC women in the current situation.

There's a Zoom mtg for members tomorrow but bang in the middle of kids bedtime so I can't make it unfortunately :(

Can anyone throw any light on this and maybe point in the right direction for more info? Many thanks!

@WickedSerious

😂😂😂Guess thats why the Green Party are having so much strife cos Stephenneeeeee set them straight …

https://twitter.com/search?q=Green%20women%27s%20Declaration&src=typed_query&f=live

Live tweeting here

Ooh, first question (after Sara Mai talking about the process of launching the Declaration) was waffle waffle you haven't mentioned trans women I mean transwomen.

Maybe looking for material for future disciplinaries. Imogen said "Trans women are men" so if that's what they were looking for they got it loud and clear.

'Transwomen are men'

Sing it out.

When I last looked The Green Party women’s group was being run by a man in a dress.
None of them care about the environment or animals and it’s a wasted vote.

You’re right of course, Stefan. Because no one really cares about women’s rights, do they? What rights anyway? Why have these non-men got the cheek to demand rights? The cheek of it.

Wow, not pulling any punches then! Refreshing clarity.

I am in a solid Labour seat so since we don't have Euro elections anymore my vote is wasted every single time. That's first past the post for you.

Plenty of people who care about all sorts in this meeting.

Current co-chairs of Green Party Women are both female, one GC and open to discussion, one TRA who rips down banners. One of these is suspended, guess which one.

I only saw two 'she/hers', which was a relief. Mind you, I thought Richard Firth had decided to be a she/her a while back, but didn't see a mention this time.

One of the questions was 'why do you hate transpeople?' (or maybe it was just t women, sorry, can't recall). I mean, just such a stupid, shallow thing to ask. The answer was basically 'we don't. TW don't have a place here, that's all'.

It'll be interesting to see the fall out from this meeting. I'm sure Chesca Walton had a spy or two 👤👤in with us, and it probably wasn't the obvious candidates like Firth and the She/Hers.

Pretty sure I saw melanie Earp's name and she was part of the out of hours panel which suspended Zoe.

The live tweets from the meeting were great:
https://twitter.com/GWDeclaration

Really positive meeting. Looking good for those standing against sexism in the Greens.

Latest statement from Zoe Hatch on her suspension is an important read.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZYbsUnA8w0aJpRPES55QhLUNq06DmUnadBFp1g4XDEg/edit

It seems the TRAs have used underhanded methods to get her suspended, but as always that relies on the idea that sex doesn't exist and clearly breaks Equality law. Sounding like Zoe is thinking of going to court from her words, if she does she will be joining Emma Bateman and Dawn Foster.

Meanwhile Shahrar Ali vs the Green Party case has been heard. Next is November 21st for the summing up in his case. Presuming we get verdict soon after.

I think the TRAs are acting up against Zoe because they are panicking in anticipation of losing the Ali case and the other two. Many sexist members have been leaving the party judging by Twitter as well. We can expect a mass exodus as soon as the legal wins start happening.

Remember the Green Party is serious financial stress because of these court cases:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66935750?

We should also thank that awful sexist - Chesca Walton. Their blatant misogyny undermines the TRA position and has strengthened Emma's chance of winning her case. The hilarious thing is the TRAs might have got away with this horror, if only their hate for anyone who knows women exist didn't drive them into self sabotage.

Everyone inside the Greens keep fighting. If we defeat sexism in the Greens then it will be a huge victory with massive repercussions. It will empower anyone fighting back in Labour, Conservatives and Lib Dems and terrify the sexist elites inside academia, corporations, civil service etc. If we win in the UK then women across the world will also fight back more strongly.

Finn White who clearly despises women who say no to they/them (him) was listening. Why?

I think the TRAs are acting up against Zoe because they are panicking in anticipation of losing the Ali case and the other two. Many sexist members have been leaving the party judging by Twitter as well. We can expect a mass exodus as soon as the legal wins start happening.

Agree. The Green Party is very small, and I think differs from other political parties in some ways, but it's still going to be one to watch for everyone in all parties in the UK.

I think the GP is the 5th largest political party in the UK.

It is but the figures suggest that it is still tiny.

Roughly:

Labour - 40%
Tory - 40%
Lib Dems - 12%
SNP - 5%
Greens - 2%

I have today written to Jon Nott as Chair of GPEX advising him that it is GPRC and the on-calls who are breaking the law. As such, I do not recognise the authority of the so-called No Fault Suspension. I will be remaining in post as GPW Co-Chair and will continue to host meetings and events until the end of my term of office

The above is from Zoe's latest communication. I voted for Zoe. I voted for the GC members of the committee. Before that I voted for Emma in the previous elections and for the other women I wanted to see in position.
Each time my votes and those of hundreds of other women have put the women we want as our representatives on the committee, and each time these representatives have ended up suspended or expelled because their rivals don't respect the result.
This is unacceptable and frankly, corrupt.
So yes, as a member of GPW, I don't recognise or accept Zoe's suspension. She is the person I voted for. She is the woman who won and the woman we chose to represent us.
AFAiK, she is still in her position as co-chair. This nonsense has gone on long enough.
I'm not sure if she's on here or how many others of the current or previous committees are, but my heartfelt thanks to every one of you. It's disgraceful how you have been treated and you've all shown incredible grace under fire. Sheroes, all of you.

Yes, it's corruption. Astonishing to watch. Calculated and underhand.

Does anybody in the Green Party care about the environment anymore or is that all old hat.
The last Green Party member I met was a vivisectionist who insisted that experimenting on beagles was a great idea.
All over the country councils are destroying nature and cutting down trees for no reason but the greens are nowhere.
Nobody knows what it stands for.
Maybe they should call themselves the Misogynist Party or the Men’s Supremacy Party and just be honest.
I used to be their animal welfare spokesman in the 90’s. Things have changed a bit.

Most members of the Green Party, especially at the local level, care about the environment.

One reason that TRA entryists have been so successful, is that there's a huge disconnect between the national Party and local Parties.

A few, like Brighton and Bristol are dominated by TRAs but generally people join the Green Party because they care about the environment and worry about Climate Change but they just pay their subs and don't get involved at all (same pattern for all political parties).

A fairly small % of members get involved. My local party is fairly typical. Local councillors work hard to get Green policies enacted by council and respond well to issues raised by local people.
Other active members support local group with leafletting and are active in local environmental action groups. Practical work like tree planting etc.

But it's very hard to get them to take an interest in the national party. Conference was 40 miles from us this year but only 3 members, including myself, went.

Yesterday, the GC Secretary of GPW emailed any officer with an email address on the Green Party website to invite them to the Declaration meeting.

Those people then swiftly received an email from notorious TRA Joe Hudson-Small, warning them that they had the right to attend but that it would be "at their own risk."

He apparently had "the safety of our members to consider"

Those people then swiftly received an email from notorious TRA Joe Hudson-Small, warning them that they had the right to attend but that it would be "at their own risk."

He apparently had "the safety of our members to consider"

I keep hoping we have reached the point where the story of crying wolf is proved to be true. But with TRAs it never seems to happen.

I assume this means that some sections of the party are panicking.

They wouldn't be trying this hard/desperately to shut women up if they weren't considered a threat.

There were more people at last night's Green Declaration for Women's Sex-Based Rights event last night than the Green Party could muster for its own AGM.

They're trying to silence women but it won't work any more.