Green Party Women under attack

[Toomie]

Can anyone help explain what's happening with Green Party Women and the Green Women's Declaration? I've looked for a thread on here but can't find anything. Apologies if I've managed to miss it.

I'm a long-standing member of the Green Party, though not v active. There have been a lot of emails arriving in the last couple of days from people on both sides and it sounds as though things are blowing up.

I haven't been able to keep up-to-date with what's happening but get the gist of it - attempted (illegal?) booting out and silencing of GC people, that doesn't appear to have worked and has backfired fairly spectacularly.

I'd really like to understand the background and what ordinary members can do to support the GC women in the current situation.

There's a Zoom mtg for members tomorrow but bang in the middle of kids bedtime so I can't make it unfortunately :(

Can anyone throw any light on this and maybe point in the right direction for more info? Many thanks!

You’re not allowed to talk about Women’s rights - off to the gulag!

Heaven forbid that you should discuss matters pertaining to female people only at a women's group

And no, I don't wish any group to be "destroyed" as you put it.

Yes you did, you said you had told the Green Party, in all your grand importance, that you wouldn't vote for them while GPW existed.

I'm a member of the Green Party and of Green Party Women so have been getting all of the emails and have a good idea of what's been happening.

At the last election, the membership of Green Party Women elected a majority GC committee. The women who make up the majority of the committee stoid on a platform of defending women's sex based rights.

Because if this, they have been under constant attack from the TRA's in the Green Party. They have also been undermined by the 3 TRA members of the committee, particularly Chesca Walton, the co-chair.

The GC women are not homophobic or anti LGB (one of them happens to be a lesbian).
They support the right of gay men and lesbians to be same sex attracted.

They don't believe that lesbians should have to do girl dick. They recognise the conflict between women's rights and trans demands.

Things reached such a point that GC co-chair Zoe Hatch, with the support of the GC majority on the committee, emailed members to explain some of what has happened.

For this, she was put on a no fault suspension.

Meanwhile, no action was taken against Chesca, the TRA co-chair whose shocking behaviour had been revealed. This is despite a viral video, bringing the Green Party into disrepute, in which Chesca attempted to defend the criminal dsmage she had perpetrated by attacking women's banner outside Conference.

Chesca then asked the Green Party IT team to make some changes to the email structure. The IT team thought it was a legit request.

This led to the creation of new co-chair, membership secretary and treasurer email accounts.

Chesca didn't request an account for the GC Secretary, despite the secretary dealing with a lot of the correspondence. All existing emails in the old GPW email account were moved to the co-chair account which only TRA Chesca has access to.

In between monthly committee meetings, committee members used Slack to communicate and make decisions. Chesca kicked out the GC members.

The GC majority had enough of her behaviour. They called for a vote of no confidence in Chesca which passed. Then they called foelections to get a fresh mandate from the membership.

Phew! Think that's the main points covered.

Their official stance is anti-LGBT rights

No it's not, it really is not at all.

I wrote an essay and still didn't cover the questions in the OP.

How can women support the GC Green Party Women who are under attack and are fighting back?

Don't give up and leave the Party - GCs need your support.

When something negative happens, send an email to show support. Could just send to the Secretary or send to the Co-chair and copy the secretary.

Members worried about confidentiality or being known as GC, can use the Secretary's personal email. It's in a post by the Secretary which is currently pinned at the top in the GPW Space in Green Spaces.

Sign up for Green Feminist emails. They always give good advice eg who to vote for in internal elections.

Thank you for this @cariadlet

Glad it was helpful.

Seems like "anti trans" and "transphobia" are disguised terms for extreme trans ideology and trying to silence and demonise opponents.

In the hope that people will automatically support the trans activist side because they don't understand the manipulation going on.

I have seen your side's violence, threats, censorship, empty slogans, and general inability to rationally defend their position.

I see you MF!

I think you are confusing Green Party Women with the Green Party Women's Declaration which is about women's sex based rights.

I think that you are being led a run around by someone who delights in disrupting threads with whataboutery.

Green Women's Declaration Banner vandalised at Conference

Women were outside the entrance to the Conference venue when our banner was subjected to an unexpected attack by Chesca Walton – Co-Chair of Green Party Women. See the video here.

Meanwhile inside the Conference venue our leaflets were snatched out of people’s hands and scrunched up. Some people really do find the idea of women’s rights offensive.

https://greenwomensdeclaration.uk/gwd-banner-vandalised-at-conference/

I think that you are being led a run around by someone who delights in disrupting threads with whataboutery.

I think I know perfectly well what I am doing, and when I want to reply @IwantToRetire but thanks!

Green Women's Declaration
@GWDeclaration

@GreenPartyWomen have invited us to talk to their members, despite knowing the abuse they would receive. On Thursday 26th Oct, we'll explain why it is vital to protect women's sex based rights Members of@TheGreenParty go to Green Spaces to sign up. #ForWomenAndPlanet

https://twitter.com/GWDeclaration/status/1716004847084810245

Is this the meeting?

Yes, this is the meeting that's happening tonight.

Background: Green Party Women is an official SIG (special interest group) within the Green Party, similar to Green Seniors, Disabled Greens etc.

The Declaration was set up by members of the Green Party
who as individuals are members of GPW but are not linked to GPW.

The women who set up the Declaration believe in women's sex based rights and the discrimination against GCs in the Labour Party.

There are similar groups in all the main political parties. Their website, petition and social media went live in August.

Declaration emailed GPW to say Have you heard about us? We'd like to talk to your members.

Discussed in a GPW committee meeting. Majority vote in favour of inviting Declaration to talk to GPW members.

GC GPW committee members have signed the Declaration but as individuals. The 2 are separate.

Current situation:

GC Co-Chair, Zoe Hatch due to Chair the event but put on a NFS (no fault suspension) for sending out email exposing bad behaviour of TRA co-chair Chesca Walton.

Members on NFS banned from Green Party events, activities, contact.

Chesca sends out warning email to all GPW discouraging them from attending the event.

Event to go ahead but now hosted by Declaration and not by GPW so Zoe will still host.

Green Party members who wish to attend can find sign up link in previous emails from GPW or Green Feminists or can go to Green Spaces.

Typos in previous post (and a Freudian slip about discrimination in the Labour Party instead of Green Party)

Can't edit on app on my phone but should still make sense.

🤣🤣🤣

Stephannee always seems to be telling women what they really meant to say even though they've said something completely different.

I wonder why that is 🤔

Put simply, for the third year in a row, certain activists in the Green Party have used underhand tactics to remove elected representatives they didn't like.
This has been by either putting in a complaint so that their target is suspended and unable to engage with members until the complaint is investigated (backlog of complaints means this usually takes months) or by blocking them from communicating with GPW members in some way.
This year it was organising email changes with IT and shutting down Slack. Year before last, it was shutting down the internal GPW forum and deleting all the posts.
In the last two years at least (not sure of previous numbers), GC candidates have had very clear wins in the elections.
TRA candidates have mostly made it in in due to the GP method of counting second and third votes, and requiring co-chairs.
It's been the people with the fewest votes mis-using party systems to oust the women who got the most.
Even if you take the gender wars out of the equation, this is a deliberate subversion of democracy and its massively concerning that the people at the top of the Greens aren't dealing with it.
I'd call for all Green Party women to pay close attention to emails and communications for the next while.
You don't need to put your head above the parapet, but your vote is almost certainly going to be needed.
You can see the Green Declaration here and sign up for their mailing list:
greenwomensdeclaration.uk/

It's a knee jerk reaction to anything with the word women in it.

Still, at least it keeps them busy

I think she did. I certainly did. What you mean is that you will vote Green as long as they insist that TWAW (they're not) and shut up women who disagree.

So you want a clear understanding of what words mean? You don’t like it when things are disguised?!

That’s great.

Let’s say trans instead of pretending you mean LGBT.

unisex instead of gender neutral.

Women meaning the sex.

Actual law not stonewall preferred law.

We see you.

It's a knee jerk reaction to anything with the word women in it.

Yes. Apparently it's "anti trans"

Or even "anti LGBT" which is an odd DARVO given how much homophobia there is in the trans rights activist movement.

By "women" you mean anti-LGBT.

No, mate. By 'women' I mean 'women'.

That's it. If you can't handle hearing this simple word that describes half the human race, then I can't help you.

Here's an idea.

It's clear the views of the Green Party and the gender-critical GPW are in direct conflict with each other.

So why doesn't GPW just break all ties with the Green Party and start their own party and remove "Green" from their name? It's a win win for everyone.

Or better still and legal, why don't the Green Party expel the trans bods, who are subverting democracy?