Remember, trans lesbians are lesbians too

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.....Says the UN Women Twitter account (2.2million followers)

'Let's uplift EVERY expression of love and identify.' Is their rallying cry.

Er, won't they be dealing with a lot of women who have been raped, experienced FGM, child marriage and abuse as children?

Every expression of love? Really??

For once, I think I'm struck dumb.

https://twitter.com/UN_Women

It doesn't matter how many disagree with facts, they remain facts.

There are lots of people who think the world is flat, the world continues to be round anyway.

It's a man attempting to present as a woman, who is attracted to women.

Also known as Not A Lesbian.

OK that's your definition of lesbian. What's your name for a biological women exclusively attracted to other biological women?

Surely Trans Lesbians are....Trans Lesbians. They can have their own category as they do for 'Trans Women'. That way they don't need to usurp women's categories. And it remains clear that they are trans Lesbians (aka men in frocks) and that women who don't like men should never ever feel obligated to kiss a trans lesbian with a cock.

Dont' take most then, take mine. As a lesbian.

I've been directly harassed here on MN multiple times for saying I am exclusively attracted to biological females - how they identify is irrelevant - and never attracted to males - how they identify is also irrelevant. That this is wrong and unacceptable and I am rightly excluded from Pride/LGBT groups (because I want to be homosexual and to say I don't do men on a sex basis.) Apparently my body, and sexuality, once something I marched in Pride for, and campaigned for, is suddenly too hurtful to male feelings to be tolerated any more. Since when do women have to define their sexualities with male permission and within the boundaries male egos can handle? One of those being most homophobic and insisting it was wrong for me to not do men said that they identified as this not being rapey. Which said it all really.

I've seen all the information from Riley Dennis about 'learn to overcome my genital preference' (and do men), and the radio broadcast from Veronica Ivy or whatever they are currently called, about 'learn to cope' with unwanted sex with men who identify as women as some kind of social duty coming with being born female, which assumes that I don't have any business wanting to choose or enjoy sex, and makes clear that this movement does know and believe sex is a binary, fixed thing even if it spends a lot of time denying it. I read the original cotton ceiling article (now heavily buried, because it was really bad press) about how 'lesbians resist the penis' and the ones about women 'gatekeeping their vaginas' from males who were furious at lesbian women denying male people the use of their body if that male person identified in the right way.

I've heard the chair of Stonewall speaking and publishing in papers that homosexual women are 'sexual racists' if they won't do men, and are in fact homosexual. Recently I saw the crowds screaming and protesting outside the building where a small group of lesbian women held a meeting where they had defined their meeting and group as biological female lesbians only. (You can find that one on youtube, videoed by a baffled bystander.)

So there really isn't much point in pretending to me that its this lovely world where mixed sex lesbianism exists happily alongside actual female homosexuality type lesbianism and everyone gets along and lives and lets live. I'm not sure why you're bothering really. It's not as if you're going to convince me that I should believe what you say over and above all the evidence that's spent the last few years sickening me.

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https://terfisaslur.com/cotton-ceiling/

Try that. Social media capture. Male people talking about 'sexual exclusion'.

From what?

Homosexual women's bodies. This is requirement that women abandon their sexuality and validate men's identities by providing access to their bodies.

I honestly don't believe I need to explain to anyone sane what is wrong with this.

Now that was a 30 second google.

You find me the pages of social media captures about how women can be homosexual if they want to, and have women only lesbian groups if they want to, and that's an identity that's ok too? I'll wait.

Yes you did. You said "It just doesn’t reflect most lesbians experience". That suggests you speak for most lesbians. You don't. Unless you have surveyed enough lesbians from a rounded cohort and made sure that there is no internal or external pressure at play to affect the answers. Not done that? Then don't talk about the experience of 'most lesbians'.

"I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body!" was a lame joke from the 90s. Now we're being asked to pretend it's real. Some of us aren't very good at pretending.

You have to consider that if you hang out with TQ+ compliant people and groups who drove out the homosexual women from their midst? Then you've got an imbalanced and naive view of the population. Here's your chance to talk to those women you haven't met or spoken to before. Hi. We're LGBT too.

I think also the 'most people do it' line worries many mothers as it's a line we teach our kids to be very suspicious of, along with the person using it. It's the 'just try drugs' line. (Everyone's doing it, you don't want to be left out or unfashionable, do you?)

Lesbians who date tw with penises are not lesbian but bi or pan sexual.

worth a watch - lesbian speed dating event going for 5 years shut down for not accepting a trans woman.

Her thread was updated just this afternoon

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4870736-lesbian-speed-dating-event-accused-of-transphobia-for-not-allowing-men?page=13&reply=129806309

Having offered to provide a mixed sex women's one as well, they tried the female only one yesterday and men and their enabling women helpers intimidated, harassed and wrecked it. And then sent Jenny, the woman in the video, pictures of a noose, requesting her to use it.

Please note reality alongside the two threads today full of faux innocence that there is absolutely no vicious intent by the TQ+ political message towards women who are lesbians in the biological homosexual sense. Or that there is anything harmless or 'kind' about this behaviour. If you've been fooled by it to this point then you have some serious waking up to do.

They are telling her to kill herself. For holding an event, just ONE event, that was not for and all about males.

Is anyone here seriously ok with that? How many lies do you have to tell to yourself to be ok with that?

And then sent Jenny, the woman in the video, pictures of a noose, requesting her to use it.

This is actual hate crime on the grounds of her sexual orientation. I expect the police were right on it, yes?

OK that's your definition of lesbian. What's your name for a biological women exclusively attracted to other biological women?

They're exactly the same thing, because males can't be women any more than they can be lesbians.

Well she also used to post it on here as well. So yes, she did.

The irony of this after your previous post! (And yes I also know what irony means, thank you.)

The terrible truth is the police would probably arrest her for complaining and she'd have a hate crime on her record.
For some reason these people are allowed to do and say anything. If women state facts or take pictures of lampposts they can be arrested.

The head of stonewall literally told women who are lesbian so refuse any sex with penises that they are sexual racists.
If they do not try to sleep with tw they are anti lgbt and against the biggest lgbt charity there is.
There have been widely advertised and applauded seminars for tw on how to break the cotton ceiling which tell them to coerce and manipulate.

Well, I know that!
I'm asking what the word is on 'Planet Janette'....

UN women are a fucking disgrace

Thank you @DialSquare and @DerekFaker I knew someone would be able to vouch for what a knobhead I was.

Nope no blaming a junior homophobic intern.
That homophobic shitposting is signed off by senior management.

They know its homophobic when the staff upload the tweet

A homophobic male who is attempting to have sex with woman who are only same sex attracted and therefore will never be interested in any kind of relationship with him.

Some funny comments

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That.

It is a straight male who identifies as a woman, is attracted to women, and who sees homosexual women as the ultimate goal in validation. If she does him then he has been recognised as a woman by a woman who only does women.

Respect for these lesbian women, capacity to respect homosexuality or sexual identity in women, capacity to see sex as something women should enjoy and want as opposed to 'learn to cope' with, or homosexuality in women as something to be celebrated and respected as opposed to overcome as prejudiced (because resisting their penis is no funsies for males, bad girls, and what are women even for if you can't fuck them?), or seeing women even as humans with a right to choice and feelings (while they will whinge endlessly about what they want from those women to soothe their own choices and feelings?)

Is not anywhere to be found.

Misogyny on crack, a lot of entitlement, and seeing those women as a boundary to be broken. Hence 'cotton ceiling'. In essence : 'guys let's brainstorm how we get the knickers off reluctant homosexual women to get our dicks in their holes'. And the rage about those women not submitting quietly.

Are you on the right side of history if you support the conquering of those women's bodies and forcing access regardless of consent? Excluding, brow beating, coercing 'everyone else is doing it', 'sexual racism', the death and rape threats, the barbed wire wrapped baseball bats carried by males in blood stained t shirts for the punishment of lesbians who said no, (which ended up in an art gallery celebrating TQ+ culture.....)

Is all about achieving getting the dick in the hole of a non consenting homosexual female. Gooooooal.

I now feel like I need a bath in bleach. <shudder>