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Transwoman quoted in the Stage claims to have been a trending topic on Mumsnet last week and to have received 'literally thousands of messages calling them a paedophile'

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BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:44

This was in an article in the Stage today. I don't remember this thread, and I've done several advanced searches and can't see any mention at all of this person in the past year even.

Is this a complete lie?

I've copied and pasted the full text of the article below, and will also post a screenshot.

Horrific’ transphobic abuse on the rise, theatremakers warnNEWSSEP 29, 2023BY GIVERNY MASSO

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Tigger Blaize, EM Williams and Tabby Lamb. Photo: Rocco Redondo Photography
Creatives have warned that "horrific" online transphobic abuse of theatremakers is on the rise, claiming abusers are threatening physical violence and putting them on ’watch lists’.
The theatremakers said that while transphobia was a societal rather than specifically a theatre issue, theatremakers and performers were often a target because they were more visible on social media.
Actor, intimacy co-ordinator and LGBT+ consultant Tigger Blaize said there had been a rise in online abuse over the past 14 months, while others outlined recent incidents of experiencing harassment on social media.
Blaize told The Stage: "Online transphobic abuse is getting worse for trans and gender nonconforming people in many ways, and that includes workers, and some of those workers will be performers.
"I have noticed a rise in it particularly over the last 14 months, beginning last summer with a sudden awareness of the drag story hour protests outside libraries by the far right."
Blaize suggested the increase in abuse had been fuelled by a "hostile mainstream media that spreads lies and misinformation about trans people" and a right-wing government "which appears to be trying to roll back our human rights" as well as "social media companies who refuse to tackle accounts that repeatedly attack marginalised groups".
He said: "It’s clear that the impact [of abuse] on performers’ working lives as well as their lives outside the workplace is hugely detrimental to their mental health, and in some cases their physical well-being."
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Blaize, who is also the vice chair of Equity’s LGBT+ committee, added: "Two artists I know have been threatened with acid attacks, and both have had to move house, both have a direct link to the police in the event of threats of attack."
Actor, poet and movement director EM Williams described transphobic online abuse as a "really big" issue.
They said: "Trans femmes are getting it the worst for sure. They are scapegoated for being ‘cosplaying men who are there to harass women’, which is obviously putting the focus on the wrong person and wrong demographic again.
"Because it’s cis male violence that they’re talking about, but for some reason they’ve included trans women in that, and it’s absolutely wild to me."
Williams also told The Stage of being subject to online abuse when they posted on social media in support of a show that was receiving criticism: "I put a post out – something along the lines of: ‘Why do we want our children to live in shame of their bodies?’ – and I got hounded and had to delete that.
"I wasn’t able to express my free speech on what I felt around an issue that is completely unrelated to me being trans, but they made it about me being trans."
Williams said that people contacted their agent, threatened to come to the theatre they were performing at and find them, and put them on a "watch list".
As a result, Williams had been forced to "[think] a lot more about what [they] put on the internet".
Williams added that online abuse such as this was a factor contributing to mental health issues and higher suicide rates among trans and queer people.
Meanwhile, writer and performer Tabby Lamb said: "I think it’s horrific. It’s one of the things that I have to consider a lot when making work. I would say it’s probably one of the main reasons I don’t act anymore."
Lamb also recalled the transphobic abuse she had experienced, adding: "I’ve had shows that have been protested, we’ve had TERFs [trans-exclusionary radical feminists] book tickets and turn up and start booing and screaming.
"Online, literally last week, I was one of the top trending topics on Mumsnet [...] and I had thousands, literally thousands of people in my [messages] calling me a paedophile and an abuser, because I’m making a show with young people about swimming as a trans person."
Lamb added that the abuse was "so much worse" for trans people of colour.
She also agreed that a rise in such abuse had been fuelled by what she described as "a government that hates trans people".
Mike Lee, executive producer for theatre company Hive North, said that a cast member on the company’s upcoming show – Jock Night at Seven Dials Playhouse – had received online abuse simply for being a vocal trans ally.
The cast member, David Paisley, had been targeted on social media after a cast announcement went out.
Lee said that the venue had "been really good" and had undergone scenario planning to ensure the show goes ahead.
In terms of what theatre companies can be doing to support transgender and gender nonconfirming artists, Blaize called for them to stand by decisions to cast trans performers and performers who speak out publicly, to cast authentically in all roles of marginalised identity and to provide trans awareness training for companies and venue staff.
Lamb and Williams both urged theatre companies to ensure safe transport to and from venues for company members who are at risk, while Lamb also called for therapy and emotional support to be provided to transgender company members.

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BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:45

Here is the screenshot of the relevant part. The article is paywalled, but the link is at:

Transwoman quoted in the Stage claims to have been a trending topic on Mumsnet last week and to have received 'literally thousands of messages calling them a paedophile'
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BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:47

When you search for their name in the last year, this thread (that I just posted) is the only result.

Transwoman quoted in the Stage claims to have been a trending topic on Mumsnet last week and to have received 'literally thousands of messages calling them a paedophile'
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Kilopascal · 29/09/2023 16:47

Never heard of any of them, and I'm a MN addict.

Are they going for the 'any publicity is good publicity' angle?

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:49

I haven't either. They claim very specifically to have been a top trending topic on Mumsnet in the past week, and to have received 'thousands of abusive messages' as a result. I haven't seen a single word about them on here.

It makes me wonder if the entire article is just a pack of lies. Did the Stage do any fact checking at all?

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OvaHere · 29/09/2023 16:49

Never heard of them or the stage show.

I believe the claims are probably what's known as projection because we all know who it is that turns up to events yelling and being abusive.

nothingcomestonothing · 29/09/2023 16:50

I would love to see receipts for even one of those claims

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:50

But The Stage, a reputable publication, has printed it - quite a serious accusation - without doing even the most basic fact checking?

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IsadoraQuagmire · 29/09/2023 16:50

All they have is lies...

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:51

Right, I am writing to the editor of the Stage, the deputy editor, the news desk and the features editor. If anyone else wants to do the same, the email addresses are on this page:

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Contact The Stage: The Stage Media Company Limited, Stage House, 47 Bermondsey Street, London, SE1 3XT. Contact us by phone +44 (0) 20 7403 1818

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OvaHere · 29/09/2023 16:53

"Because it’s cis male violence that they’re talking about, but for some reason they’ve included trans women in that, and it’s absolutely wild to me."

Someone should send this hard of thinking individual the videos of the trans 'girl' who keeps viciously beating up school girls.

LadyMary50 · 29/09/2023 16:55

This is absolute bollocks.The lengths they go to play the poor abused,marginalised ones.Have they never seen the screaming hatred for women at “let women speak”events.I would be very interested to see the receipts for their allegations.I have scrolled back through MN and cannot find a single post that is threatening or abusive.

OvaHere · 29/09/2023 17:00

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 16:50

But The Stage, a reputable publication, has printed it - quite a serious accusation - without doing even the most basic fact checking?

This is true. In the unlikely event of 'terfs' mass booking theatre tickets then disrupting the show 'booing and screaming' it would be both videoed and reported on all over social media in a nano second.

Even here we have posters who are very quick to tell us about even the most minor infraction or faux pas by a terfy woman. I can't imagine something like this passing them by.

Piccalillipromises · 29/09/2023 17:01

Has the meaning of the word "literally" been changed again? I knew it's common usage had switched to mean "figuratively", does it now mean "this is a complete fabrication"...?

SirChenjins · 29/09/2023 17:04

'Literally' now identifies as 'imagination'

Very interesting article

LaBellina · 29/09/2023 17:05

It fits into the narrative of accusing women of violence and genocide for not supporting their ideas while simultaneously sending those same women rape and death threats because ‘terfs’.

LadyMary50 · 29/09/2023 17:05

Looks like Tabby Lamb has form for lying..

RoyalCorgi · 29/09/2023 17:07

What gets me is that this would be the easiest thing in the world for a journalist to check. It requires spending about five minutes searching on Mumsnet. I mean, it's not even journalism 101 - it's the sort of thing you'd learn in year 6 if your primary school teacher decided to teach you about being a journalist.

The Stage journalists must be really seriously f*ing incompetent.

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 17:08

RoyalCorgi · 29/09/2023 17:07

What gets me is that this would be the easiest thing in the world for a journalist to check. It requires spending about five minutes searching on Mumsnet. I mean, it's not even journalism 101 - it's the sort of thing you'd learn in year 6 if your primary school teacher decided to teach you about being a journalist.

The Stage journalists must be really seriously f*ing incompetent.

Tabby Lamb also claims that 'TERFs' booked tickets to Tabby's show purely in order to 'shout and scream abuse'.

Given that the easily-checked claims in the story are completely false, why would anyone believe the rest of it?

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Slightlyoff · 29/09/2023 17:10

OvaHere · 29/09/2023 17:00

This is true. In the unlikely event of 'terfs' mass booking theatre tickets then disrupting the show 'booing and screaming' it would be both videoed and reported on all over social media in a nano second.

Even here we have posters who are very quick to tell us about even the most minor infraction or faux pas by a terfy woman. I can't imagine something like this passing them by.

Exactly. If this were happening there would be evidence. But the only evidence is of TRAs targeting GC women.

I don't work in performing arts but have a connection to it, and my overriding feeling is it's a sector that's largely 'unsafe' for GCs and beyond accommodating for the GI brigade.

MavisMcMinty · 29/09/2023 17:10

Given that the easily-checked claims in the story are completely false, why would anyone believe the rest of it?

Because proof-reading/correcting their copy would be LITERAL VIOLENCE?

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 17:12

The Stage takes complaints about editorial content seriously. We are committed to abiding by the Independent Press Standards Organisation rules and regulations and the Editors’ Code of Practice that IPSO enforces. Requests for corrections and clarifications should be sent by email to editor [at] thestage.co.uk or by post to Editor, The Stage, 47 Bermondsey Street, London SE1 3XT.

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CaramelMac · 29/09/2023 17:15

Not the point of the thread but the line “for some reason” really made me lol

HagoftheNorth · 29/09/2023 17:16

Wondering whether MNHQ shouldn’t be getting on top of this - Tabby Lamb is suggesting they allow posters to harass people, which is clearly untrue

BlurredEdges · 29/09/2023 17:19

HagoftheNorth · 29/09/2023 17:16

Wondering whether MNHQ shouldn’t be getting on top of this - Tabby Lamb is suggesting they allow posters to harass people, which is clearly untrue

Yes, I think they should. What's the best way to make them aware?

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