‘Dilation day two ….

[RudsyFarmer]

……. let's play. Where in an airport can I locate a clean, dry, private place I can lie down, take my knickers off and spread my legs?'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535827/Transgender-ex-Labour-MSP-Heather-Herbert-disabled-toilet-Gatwick-Airport.html

They are no words are there?

"I must remember to pack a selfie stick/tripod in my hospital bag when I go for my surgery just in case I can't find a suitable place in a busy airport to do my aftercare and need to take a selfie to raise awareness on social media", said no woman ever.

We only have his word for it that that is what the other hand is doing. My guess is that the other hand was actually holding a selfie stick.

Meanwhile the disabled person waiting outside really did just want to pee.

Hang on. Didn't they refuse to use the accessible toilet because it was demeaning? If you can use it to dilate then surely you can pee there as well?

Unless they are disabled as well as trans they have no more business using the accessible toilet than they do using the women's toilet.

There are toilets provided for disabled people, and for able bodied people of both sexes. Therefore trans people already have a place to pee, just as everyone else does. Except disabled people who can't get into the accessible toilet because Herbert is in there.

Lots of these men get it lopped off in Thailand and then have to fly home. Apparently they’re told it’s fine to go without dilating for that period of time, it just might be more uncomfortable the next time.

So there really was no reason for this before a short flight to Scotland. Still, the more light is shone on these people, the better, right?

Anyone still on the fence on whether trans is a sexual fetish for these men?

Isn't it incredible how they keep on doing stuff no woman would ever do, and agressively demanding we accept them as women. Zero self awareness.

My son has autism and won't use the disabled loo because he thinks that he will be shouted at by someone who thinks he has no disabilities. He has , as he has issues with being in a less private place etc. So ,how come this person feels it's perfectly OK to use disabled facilities? What disability do they have? And why do we have to be treated to this sort of behaviour on social media?

Interesting how much those presenters let Heather talk. I imagine they are fully aware of the effects of operation let them speak.

Heather is adamant that it only becomes a mental illness if people disagree with it and the person gets upset. I think they meant if you're distressed by it. Which seems to be one of the criteria. That these things do not constitute a mental health issue, unless you find it distressing.

But that's not how it sounded! I wonder what Heather would say if the presenters asked, outright, what about 'erotic cross dressers'.

Can that be a conversation that they have next? Please!

A note on Herbert's assertion that you 'can't have' surgery until age 18 in the UK:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scottish-doctors-approved-breast-removal-for-51-trans-teenagers-qvkmz8r2c

Also curious why Herbert pushed Herbert's partner away out of frame. Bit of an odd dynamic, there.

What a lot of "things that never happen" are happening.

That these things do not constitute a mental health issue, unless you find it distressing.

Ah. Oddly that reminds me of the NSPCC who in one of their captured moments redefined sexual abuse as only abusive if the child found it distressing.

And yet in this odd world, where it's fine until someone's distressed, women can be as distressed as they like and just need to shut up, get over it and think only of how they can properly serve the needs of the male person distressing them. Their distress is a fault, bad behaviour, and certainly not a call for action on the part of others.

It's quite physically sick making really, the pathology is in plain sight. And yes, it requires the willful, desperate naivety and everyone righteously identifying as Not Seeing or hearing or mentioning the many, many accounts from male people with TQ+ identities mentioning the in depth sexual aspects involved for them. Or any other inconvenient facts, realities, events and experiences. You must pretend at all times to be an innocent in this world who believes everything you're told to believe like a good girl. Because that is how you enable it and properly serve the agenda without inconveniencing someone who benefits from it.

Surely you’re not suggesting he’s getting off on this? I’m shocked I tell you.

Autogynephilia in action.

Absolutely this. The fact he’s laying on a filthy public toilet floor rather than waiting an hour or so to get home is bad enough but to then take a photo, describe what they’re doing to themselves in a sexual way and publish it online probably belongs on the list of things that could never happen but oh look yes it has.

Beyond grim 😫

Blurrgh! Who in their right mind would lie on an airport toilet floor unless they'd fallen or they were so poorly that they had no choice but to lie down.

Thinking about the timing of this some more.

You're flying from London to Scotland.

Let's say it takes you an hour to get to the airport and you want to arrive when check in opens, so two hours before your flight. You set off three hours before your flight. Your flight takes an hour. Let's say it then takes you an hour to reclaim your baggage at the other end. No immigration to go through because this is a domestic flight. Then let's say it takes you two hours to get home, so we're now at seven hours. Let's add on an extra two hours for delays, so all in all you arrive at your destination in Scotland nine hours after you set off from your location in London.

As far as I can tell, barring any multiple hour delays in your flight taking off from London, nine hours is the absolute maximum time it is going to take you to get from door to door. In reality it is probably more like five or six hours.

A regular person who works a 9-5 job and isn't working from home is going to be out of the house for a minimum of nine hours on a normal working day.

So if someone has had a vaginoplasty and needs to do daily dilation, either:

A. they can't work

or

B. they manage to do it outside of working hours, in which case Herbert didn't need to do this at the airport before a short domestic flight

or

C. they need to take time out of their working day and have space provided at work so they can do this.

Which is it?

Well, it's obviously transphobic for airports not to have a suite of dilatation rooms available af any time.

I had read, and fully believe, that dilatation of a pseudo-vagina is very painful, especially in the early post-op days. The Herbert's face isn't showing any pain IMHO.

HH isn't dilating. HH may be about to dilate, but I'd put a tenner on it that HH is going to wait until home.

I think this picture - and its deliberately sexual caption - was just taken to get likes. The attention-seeker knows perfectly well not to bring an open wound into contact with a toilet floor.

It’s a bit reminiscent of Jess Bradley and the park bench IMO.

It did seem that Herbert was trying to claim some kind of victim status in that Herbert couldn't find somewhere suitable to dilate.

Perhaps Herbert could mount a campaign for suitable spaces for this kind of action to be created and maintained throughout the country.

Perhaps with broadcasting facilities to enable Herbert to improve his reach.

Did we ever find out what happenned to the fragrant Jess Bradley in the end? Long graduated now so I assume he's now a 30y old accountant called James busy sexually harassing people in wine bars after work, or similar.

With alarming frequency too.