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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The misogynist Billy Bragg

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Maaate · 12/09/2023 18:38

About time he had his own thread to document the anti-women statements he comes out with. First up:

The misogynist Billy Bragg
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RebelliousCow · 13/09/2023 07:26

He's a working class guy from Essex, who left school at 16, learned to play the guitar and fell in with radical pop and folk songs. That's his identity, and he's sticking to it. It has served him well.

literalviolence · 13/09/2023 07:56

It's harassment if it happens to a man. If it, however, happens to the 50% of the population who were put on the earth to serve men, it's fine really.

TheClitterati · 13/09/2023 08:24

How it started / how it's going.

x.com/bertdalziel/status/1701626585680413002?s=46

The misogynist Billy Bragg
The misogynist Billy Bragg
TheClitterati · 13/09/2023 08:26

TragicMuse · 12/09/2023 23:45

God I don't have sufficient invective for my loathing of Bragg. He's 50 shades of dickhead. Absolutely beyond the pale.

Hateful awful man.

That should be a hashtag

#50ShadesOfDickhead

Huckleberries73 · 13/09/2023 08:29

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ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 09:07

Huckleberries, I'm sorry. That must be really hard.

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 13/09/2023 09:19

Indeed. He’s a common or garden lefty beardy wokey blokey like the thousands on Twitter. There’s no excusing his misogyny.

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2023 09:31

Someone male and left-wing needs to put their hand on Billy’s shoulder and give him a gently disapproving “Maaate.”

To state that a woman isn’t being harassed by the thugs screaming abuse at her because she’s smiling, so she must be enjoying it. Really, Billy? Really?

Dangerous little man.

RoyalCorgi · 13/09/2023 09:33

I wasn’t quite such a fan but I did used to listen to and enjoy Remainiacs. The fact that Dorian has come out with such an attack on HJ has actually taken me aback. I knew he had a trans child and was in with the fox killer but still. Also disappointed to see Ian Dunt getting in there too. I thought he was a bit more balanced.

Do you have any more info about this, inkjet? I was struck by the vehemence of Lynskey's attack on Helen Joyce, but if he has a trans-identifying child that would make some sense.

WearyLady · 13/09/2023 09:48

@RoyalCorgi which episode of Remainiacs are you referring to? I'd like to give it a listen.

EdithStourton · 13/09/2023 10:13

LizzieSiddal · 12/09/2023 20:09

This man just gets worse and worse. He really is telling us exactly who he is.

I know someone who worked with him recently. Her description was “he’s a complete bell end”. I’m hoping for more details when I next see her!

I can't be the only one hoping for an update.

I used to like BB. But he has revealed him to be such an arrogant idiot. Another one of those lefties who, as soon as they get some ££££, buy a massive house with a massive garden (and ensure they have a massive pension plan) and rather than admitting that they're not as leftie as they used to be, just carry on with the virtue-signalling-on-steroids.

inkjet · 13/09/2023 10:36

RoyalCorgi I don’t think he’s tweeted directly about it but he talks about a son where before he talked about daughters (and the son isn’t a new baby from the context) and I’ve seen him tweet about how unfair the guidance for schools was for trans boys. I realise I sound obsessed but I only went looking when I saw him getting into arguments about puberty blockers and thought hmm.

RavingStone · 13/09/2023 10:39

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2023 09:31

Someone male and left-wing needs to put their hand on Billy’s shoulder and give him a gently disapproving “Maaate.”

To state that a woman isn’t being harassed by the thugs screaming abuse at her because she’s smiling, so she must be enjoying it. Really, Billy? Really?

Dangerous little man.

This. I mean, we knew he was a misogynist because he asserted men could be women. But this takes him to utter, despicable, misogynist prick level. He clearly has never ever taken the time to learn about trauma or the many ways women have to act to appease dangerous men.

The contempt I hold for this man has just plummeted to unexpected depths.

LetMeGoogleThat · 13/09/2023 10:49

Eww, there's a proper way to be a victim for him 🙄

This is the same man that wrote Levi Stubbs......he appeared to understand male on female violence then....

bingbangbongding · 13/09/2023 11:04

It's so rapey. She liked it she was smiling. She didn't say no.

Lottapianos · 13/09/2023 11:17

And you know for damn sure that he still think he's a Great Big Feminist. That he understands feminism better than we do, and he's got a lot to teach us all about how to do feminism properly

This latest comment to Maya 🤦🏻‍♂️ he's just getting worse and worse. Or maybe just getting braver and braver about letting his misogyny hang out for all to see. What an utter plum

Imagine if he told a person of colour that he had seen the footage of them being racially abused and they were smiling so it wasn't real racism, and get over it love. It would be the end of his career, but swop 'person of colour ' for 'woman' and it's all cool beans. Apparently 🙄

AutumnCrow · 13/09/2023 11:22

He's certainly gone to a dark place of the soul. Question is, was it always there or is this a new thing?

My guess is that it was always there, and he was just able to mask it better in his earlier career, with his LARPing politics lifted straight from Bob Dylan and blues music. Similarly many men have masked using comedy. But really, they just fucking resent and despise women, probably because they're angry at their mums and a girl at school turned them down once. Then they got successful so they tightly controlled that feeling behind a smile - but it was always there inside, like a little knot waiting to unravel.

RoyalCorgi · 13/09/2023 11:23

inkjet · 13/09/2023 10:36

RoyalCorgi I don’t think he’s tweeted directly about it but he talks about a son where before he talked about daughters (and the son isn’t a new baby from the context) and I’ve seen him tweet about how unfair the guidance for schools was for trans boys. I realise I sound obsessed but I only went looking when I saw him getting into arguments about puberty blockers and thought hmm.

Thanks, inkjet. I think you're probably right in that case.

WearyLady - it was inkjet who listened to the Remainiacs podcast, I was quoting her.

TheClitterati · 13/09/2023 11:37

I think BB has a son, now in his late 20's.

This article from 2014 "What I know About Women" is a bit dated - turns out he knows 3/5ths of fuck all about women

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/what-i-know-about-women-20140304-3438x.html

What I know about women

Singer-songwriter Billy Bragg on the significant women in his life.

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/what-i-know-about-women-20140304-3438x.html

Lottapianos · 13/09/2023 11:45

😂
Posie very much not holding back there! As usual

I love how she talks about 'pinching me in the playground' - that's exactly what it's like. I bet she particularly bothers him because she's incredibly gorgeous and also totally uninterested in him

keeptalkinghappytalk · 13/09/2023 11:46

BB is a woman hating arse ...

I was at the Manchester meeting where Maya F and Helen J talked about womens and girls rights in law and how to secure them....as we left the building, a mob of transactivists were waiting for us. They screamed at us ' Nazis out', ' no Fascists here!' and 'f * Helen Joyce', banging drums as they followed us down a backstreet.

Bravely, Helen and Maya marched at the front of our group, openly defying the raging fools as we all now made our way confidently along the street .. heads up and. unbowed!

Seems that s not how Bragg likes his womenfolk!

ps Will be complaining to Manchester Police ... these mobs are being given a free pass ehen they clearly breach public order.

ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 12:05

'I know Billy Bragg so we had that connection. It's amazing how in place like London, you often cross paths with people that are connected to other people you know. There's somewhat of a kinship between all of the artists within the community.'

Justin Sane.

https://www.punknews.org/article/30641/interviews-justin-sane-anti-flag

'Anti-Flag’s Ex-Members Say ‘F-ck You’ to ‘Very Sick’ Justin Sane Amid Sexual Assault Accusations ... 13 women accused the punk-rock singer of predatory behavior, sexual assault, and statutory rape.'

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/anti-flags-ex-members-speak-out-against-justin-sane-assault-accusations-1234818094/

Interviews: Justin Sane (Anti-Flag)

As Anti-Flag continue to tour in support of their 2008 album, The Bright Lights of America, the band's vocalist, Justin Sane, took time to speak with Punknews' Michael Dauphin about life on a major and the new album....

https://www.punknews.org/article/30641/interviews-justin-sane-anti-flag

ArabeIIaScott · 13/09/2023 12:06

Has Billy 'called out' his pal Justin, or is it just women he picks on?

AIstolemylunch · 13/09/2023 12:07

His child is a singer-songwriter called Jack Valero, lives in Brighton. I don't know if trans. Very little info online about him until a few years ago so certainly possible. No excuse for being a mysoginist though, if so.

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