Feminists want trans women to show passports at public lavatories, claims Labour MP Angela Eagle

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Dame Angela Eagle, who is standing to be a Commons committee chairman, said lavatories were being “policed” at the expense of those who don’t conform to gender norms.

The MP for Wallasey said the heated debate about <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Y3zfs/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/06/12/labour-mp-challenge-keir-starmer-single-sex-spaces/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">trans people using single-sex spaces revolved around “recreating and then enforcing” gender stereotypes.
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peaking at a fringe event at the Trades Union Congress conference in Liverpool, she criticised <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Y3zfs/www.telegraph.co.uk/kemi-badenoch/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kemi Badenoch, the equalities minister, for seeking to change the wording of the Equality Act to specify that it protects “<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Y3zfs/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/gender-neutral-lavatories-are-an-invasion-of-womens-privacy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">biological sex”.

This would make it clear that trans women have to use the men’s lavatories, while trans men have to use the ladies’, Dame Angela said.

‘Policed at public facilities’She added: “Whilst that may affect a small number of people, the actual effect is that loads of non-gender-conforming women will effectively be being policed in their use of public facilities.

“We’ve never had to show a passport to get into the toilet before. I dread to think what else they might want us to show if they change the law.”

Dame Angela warned that people would be “challenged using the toilets” for merely deviating from gender norms, citing a “butch-looking woman” as someone at risk.

“This is all about recreating and then enforcing appearance, behaviour, making certain that you actually behave and look the way your sex, your gender ought to look,” she said.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/11/feminists-want-trans-women-to-show-passport-to-use-lavatory/

She was speaking at a fringe event at the Trades Union Congress conference. Article behind paywall but available to read at https://archive.ph/ just paste in the Telegraph link.

Demonstrating yet again why I don’t feel i can trust Labour with my vote

Well I know a woman that is lesbian but claims to be non binary (exactly how she thinks that makes sense baffles me) says she would be more comfortable using the men’s toilets but doesn’t and when I questioned her she couldn’t even answer so I replied exactly because you know men are physically and biologically more stronger and that’s why no trans men are fighting for access to men’s toilets but the trans women actively are… I refuse to acknowledge pronouns

There are times that I think that a woman would be safer in the Gent's. I know that it stinks and the seats need a deep clean but there are men who understand the meaning of the word 'man' around.

Men should just stay out of the Ladies' though.

God I'm so sick of people from Labour spouting complete and utter bollocks!I

For fucks sake Labour, will you give you're collective heads a wobble and get your bloody act together!

Dear me, she's angling to be a Commons Committee Chair and she's come out with this deluded, entirely fact-free load of rubbish. Surely her saying it proves that she's entirely unsuited to be on any committees, much less in charge of one.

Her critical and analytical facilities seem to be completely absent. She's using Trumpesque tactics:

A lot of good people are saying...
I've heard that...
Is this what you want? The Terfs will make you do that...

Someone (in politics) should take her to task for her risible claims.

Honestly this issue could lose the next election for Labour. What the fuck is wrong with them?

Do we get a choice of what we'd want to see ahead of someone checking passports at the public lavatories?

Permanent attendant.
Maintenance/plumber.

Eagle has been bought, that's all.

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2023/06/22/angela-eagle-mp/

Angela "Greedy Gannet" Eagle, tethered to the prow by a golden chain, regurgitating half-digested mermaid tales.

It's amazing what can be discovered when people do some actual journalism, isn't it? Beginning to get some idea of the scale of the DEI industry now.

I was surprised by the screenshot in that blog describing Eagle as the first openly lesbian MP.

I thought that was Maureen Colquhoun in the 1970s, albeit she was still married to her husband when she was first elected and fell in love with a woman after being elected. She lost her seat in the 1979 election. According to the book Difficult Women, anyway.

So perhaps what the screenshot meant to say was that Eagle was the first openly lesbian candidate for election to Parliament who was then voted in.

Wow, according to that blog she’s received just under £100k in donations (over a period of five years) from a single individual, who happens to be on the board of GLAAD.

The people who are owed money by Signature Living which is/was owned by the Liverpool property developer mentioned in that blog might want to know why Eagle deserves a £4k donation from him more than the people his business owes/owed money to.

Edited to add
Correction: the £4k donation seems to be from before the collapse of the business.

Yes. Maureen Colquhoun, Labour MP:

'Colquhoun was Britain's first openly lesbian MP.[23] In 1973, as a married mother of three teenage children,[24] she left her husband, Sunday Times journalist Keith Colquhoun, for the publisher of Sappho magazine, Babs (Barbara) Todd.[11][25][26]'

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'in late September 1977, members of her constituency party's General Management Committee voted by 23 votes to 18, with one abstention, to deselect her,[31][32] citing her "obsession with trivialities such as women's rights".'

'The local party chairman Norman Ashby said at the time: "She was elected as a working wife and mother ... this business has blackened her image irredeemably"'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Colquhoun

A permanent attendant please and a Blue Peter style competition to design their uniform.

While we imagine that politicians are considering 'ethics, policy, voters, political solutions' what they are actually more likely thinking is 'polling, lobbyists, funding, tactics'.

What we can't see is the machinations behind the scenes. Some people have more weight than others. Maybe because they are powerful, or make good donations, or have the right connections.

I suppose this is the only explanation for why the Scottish government tried to force through Isla Bryson's ticket to a women's prison when the vast majority of the electorate was outraged by it.

Do politicians ultimately want to be in government? For some it's just a convenient stepping stone to a book deal, dinner party engagements, consultancy work.

There's a much stronger case that gender ideology 'allows people to question the existence of other human beings', by insisting on a recursive definition of "woman".

It's possible sometimes that the political class just has different values to the general population.

In this case, it's difficult to see how they could be that crazy on the prison issue to really believe in it.

My guess would be it's a "right side of history" thing, with left leaning politicians not wanting to go against the LGBT lobby.

They don't want to be on the "bigot" side, lose their progressive credentials, and the LGBT groups have more moral authority these days than the Vatican. That combined with probably some activists in their own parties that really believe it, somehow.

Plus this is all built on the GRA which is a legal lie

If they let people say that out loud it brings into question the hugely damaging time bomb planted

All this is due to that and institutions are working hard to stop people noticing

Good grief, times really haven’t changed in the subsequent 30+ years for Labour have they? Deselected citing her "obsession with trivialities such as women's rights".

“After the revolution luv, now stick the kettle on there’s a good girl”.

I may have raised an eyebrow at that, MyLadyDisdain.

I mean, I remember the seventies as a child, but it brings it home that things really really haven’t changed at all. Same shit, different bucket.

Arabella, I always wonder where the first compromises have to be made on the greasy pole climbing to the top.

Is it near the start when you're running a charity or board ahead of the dive into politics? At the top of the council? The local party? The selection process to become mp? The rise to cabinet? Minister? Deputy PM? PM?

Or are you compromised to start, that's why your rise in politics is so easy and seamless?

Probably it depends? If you've done PPE at Oxford and go straight into politics and that is the water you swim in it's probably your entire understanding of what politics is about.

Eagle has been bought, that's all.

Or her thinking was always flaky. She sounds far more like that strand of the left that became known as Corbynistas, whose politics were pure student performative vacuous statements. (Which is ironic as she certainly has no love of Corbyn https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/angela-eagle-accuses-jeremy-corbyn-allowing-abuse-flourish)

One of those who thinks being "in tune" with young people is politically brave.

And then got donations from those who wanted to prop up this TRA flag waving in the Labour Party.

Unfortunately these donations will only confirm to herself that she has the intellectual ability and political integrity to have taken up the banner on behalf of "the most oppressed".

And sadly there are many lesbians who think like her, which is what is so puzzling. Makes you wonder what they think being a lesbian is.

So perhaps what the screenshot meant to say was that Eagle was the first openly lesbian candidate for election to Parliament who was then voted in.

AE first elected to Parliament in 1992 came out as a lesbian in 1997.