Z cup teacher is back in a new school

[Hoardasurass]

I can't believe that any school would hire this person

Trans teacher prepares to return to class at a NEW school https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12453205/Kayla-Lemieux-trans-teacher-Canada-school-breasts-policy.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

I don't see how there could be "rules and regulations in place to prevent this from happening" in a country where a bill has added the words “gender identity or expression” to its Human Rights Act, to a section of the Criminal Code that targets hate speech and to a section of the Criminal Code dealing with sentencing for hate crimes.

If an individual claims that a particular way of dressing / behaving is an expression of that individual's gender identity, I'm not sure what rules and regulations would be legally permissible or enforceable

Yes. Only around children.

Well that's the problem, the law is wrong.

Which takes us back to the idiots who legislate and the idiots who vote them into office.

(muses on what it takes to turn a country into an idiocracy)

This is batshit, but when you look at how it got there, it suddenly seems much clearer how this kind of thing happens.

If addiction is conceptualized as a disease, that changes everything, you can't fire someone who has an illness, even if it means they have an accident.

When you see the logic, it makes you think very very carefully about the possibilities with all kinds of regulations that were originally intended to help people.

One thing that really struck me during covid was how passive most Canadians were, and how much they would toe any line that was supposedly about doing the right thing for others.

There was and is a very high level of trust in the authorities, and a tendency to accept social pressures, and a lack of inclination to ask hard questions.

There are photos taken in this person's class.

The real reason is, as others have stated, in the careless legislation which protects 'gender expression' without apparently defining it in any realistic sense. So Kayla can argue that giant prosthetic breasts and a mini skirt and a blond wig are how Kayla expresses being a woman, and nobody can argue back.

Now why the legislation was carried out so sloppily returns us to the sacred caste argument. But that something like this is now seen as a valid form of expressing femininity means that misogynistic behaviour is now treated as a human right. Because this is clear misogyny.

Absolutely. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Or at least, good intentions that have not been properly considered, means-tested, or taken to their logical conclusion. But that sounds less pithy I guess

Megan Murphy was outraged over this, way back when (C16 I think?). I remember her saying they were passing laws based on gender and gender identity, without actually defining what gender even meant. She couldn't believe it was going through legal process without a legal definition.

And she subsequently got kicked off Twitter for commenting on a photo of Jessica Yaniv with the words 'yes, that's him.'

There are a lot of people highly invested in creating laws that cement male supremacism and use women as props, and worse.

This kind of sloppy sloppy legislation doesn't seem to be confined to gender questions, though.

It seems like the current Liberal government, and I feel like it's the same in many other places, thinks the main point of legislating is just a kind of virtue signal, to show the country, or the citizens, or the world, what the right things to think are.

There is none of the serious work involved in making good strong laws that work to actually do something, and protect against abuse of the law, opportunism, are consistent with other legislation, or even just confusion.

People who ask questions about these topics, or whether certain ideas are best dealt with by legislation at all, are characterized as bad people, bigots, racists, whatever.

It's a bit like the way in the UK you will see people who are wary of hate crime bills, for very solid reasons, be called bigots. As if not supporting them means they agree it is good to hate women (or whomever.)

The gender ideology elements are some of the worst in that they effect is so devastating, ultimately because it is so anti-reality. But it all reflects this weird, sloppy approach to governance.

AG in all its warped glory. Canada is the wokest country in the world ATM. God knows what's possessed anyone to employ this blatant fetishism

So the fake breasts are kind of pantomime breasts. Ridiculing female bodies.
If he likes wearing them in front of children but doesnt bother out of the classroom, then that does pose a question.

Also, I remember at school that children make fun of even the slightest aberration. What on earth do they make of it. What on earth do parents think.
It seems we are all too afraid to complain.

All these safeguarding measures and police checks in schools, churches, institutions and for anyone who works with children, yet you cant help thinking that predators have found a way of coming in through the woke door blatantly laughing.

This YouTube video about the current state of affairs in Canada is interesting and disturbing

I've noticed this in Canadians generally. Lovely people but with an apparent inability to voice any form of disagreement.

Yes this is a huge generalisation obvs.

Mulder and Scully usually disagreed.
Then again, that was three decades ago, a lot can and did happen in the meantime in Canada.

Often when faced with unreasonable policy/behavior some people try and come up with good motivations/reasons why it's reasonable staring from position it must be as most people are reasonable.

The actual situation doesn't change here if they have a "good reason" - the good reason provided might not be true anyway - it's a socially unacceptable way to dress in professional environment with potential to cause offense to colleagues and distress to pupils.

Because in any population there are unreasonable people who for many reasons push boundaries there are usually policies in place to deal with such people - that seems to be what is missing here - the authority who ever that is saying no these are the rules everyone follows to work in this environment.

Had a quick search, there doesn't seem to be much of a dress code for students:

https://www.hwdsb.on.ca/blog/student-dress-code-guidelines-and-next-steps/

One could argue that if same standards were applied for students and staff, the teacher in question would possibly fall foul of this clause:

• May not wear anything that promotes or symbolizes drugs, alcohol, illegal activity, hate or discrimination, profanity, pornography; that incites violence or harassment; or threatens health and safety

Z Cup...profane. Fail the regulations.
Pornographic. Ditto.
Threatens health and safety. Have you seen that photo of Kayla in the machine shop?

why in the name of all that is holy would a SECOND school hire him? I can sort of understand why the first school felt lumbered with him when he started doing it after he was already employed (though I think they’re pathetic cowards failing to safeguard children), but why would any other school ever hire this obvious pervert? WHY?!

You see, if you decide that fake breasts on a male person are totally legitimate, in fact, 'stunning and brave', then how can you say that these particular fake breasts are a problem?

Kathleen Stock once talked about how there is a philosophical question about how many grains of rice make a heap? If you keep adding one grain of rice at a time then when exactly does it become a heap. She mused that there is a similar philosophical question here, at what cup size do fake breasts on a man become unacceptable?

The thing is, if you pass laws making "gender expression" sacrosanct, something which people are unable to criticise (and can in fact be punished for criticising) but without defining either "gender" or "gender expression", you cannot control, regulate or ban anything any individual claims is an expression of their gender.

"Heather Peto, a trans woman who was selected by her local party in Rushcliffe and Melton to be on the all-women shortlist last year, said: “Labour’s complaint procedure keeps getting brought into disrepute. Today it is a person who is trying to undermine the party’s trans-inclusive policy by pretending to be a woman for the day.”

Omg 😂so what does Peto think he's doing?

How very transphobic of Peto.

Surely that's being genderfluid. And genderfluidity comes under the trans umbrella.

Didn't Pips Bunce who presents as male on some days of the week and female on others, ergo is genderfluid, even get an award?

Its almost like someone is having a laugh, saying ok - lets see how far you will go to be truly woke you idiots. How much idiocy are you going to accept.

Someone should pop them!