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ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 29/08/2023 09:09

Lots of men who identify as women and work in schools will wear breasts. I dont know how schools can avoid it.

This obviously looks extreme, but how can policy be written to allow a man to wear breasts, but not get to this position? Is this size any more or less a fetish than a man wearing a B cup?

NotMadeOfStone · 29/08/2023 09:10

It's not just the cartoon boobs is it? Why the need for the short tight skirts too? In the UK this wouldn't be considered appropriate workwear for teachers.

It's almost as if this person enjoys being viewed as a sexual being inside a school.

CorruptedCauldron · 29/08/2023 09:11

If TWAW then they need to be held to the same standards as women. A woman parading around like that would get short shrift if she applied for a teaching job. What makes this individual so special that everyone is falling over themselves to welcome him into a job where he will be working with children, while sporting giant prosthetic breasts with erect nipples? This is clearly fetishwear and if the authorities cannot see that, I think they’re beyond help. I’d take my children out of the school and either homeschool them or find somewhere else for them to go.

Theimpossiblegirl · 29/08/2023 09:12

Fucking fetishist.

I wonder if the children and other teachers have dress codes to follow, which is standard in schools.

Plasmodesmata · 29/08/2023 09:14

I would have thought "no visible nipples" a reasonable dress code for teachers of either sex.

NotMadeOfStone · 29/08/2023 09:17

Plasmodesmata · 29/08/2023 09:14

I would have thought "no visible nipples" a reasonable dress code for teachers of either sex.

Especially 'no giant hugely fake looking ridiculous carbuncle's masquerading as nipples'.

It's like I always think about DQST - if a woman wanted to dress up in Ann Summers crap and waltz into the local library desperately looking for kids to read to, questions would be asked, she would be stopped, the police would be called.

Same with this: a woman presenting like this would lose her job in five minutes flat.

ZadocPDederick · 29/08/2023 09:18

Surely locking all but one of the external doors is a fire risk?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 29/08/2023 09:21

I spy with my little eye something beginning with 'f'.

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:25

DarkDayforMN · 29/08/2023 09:02

I really dislike how the “hoax” people are, presumably unconsciously, rewriting reality to pretend that a fetishist who puts on a sexual display in front of the schoolchildren in his care has somehow got noble motives.

People are often driven to make excuses for male sexual predators. This seems like a variation on the same old script.

(And there are so many examples of these men going to extremes with their entitled behaviour and making their movement look ridiculous. I’m unclear why this one specifically is getting the “hoax” treatment.)

That's not what I think at all, as you'd know from my other angry posts on MN. I'm just saying that there is the possibility this is a hoax. Fwiw, I view Dylan Mulvaney as ostensibly a hoax as well.

Put it this way, if the shitshow implodes and the curtain is drawn back on this, I could see individuals like Dylan and this teacher shouting "Gotcha!"

Also, I can't be sure, but did I read a piece that said he's looking to be sacked or discriminated against so he can test the legal system to destruction.

Mr. Lay-dee Beard in the Labour Party didn't go that far. But this guy could re Canadian litigation.

BloodyHellKen · 29/08/2023 09:30

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 08:52

In the mists of time, I remember a story of a Labour Party member who applied to join the women's policy unit. Natal male, full beard etc.
He claimed that he was female and male on different days at particular times. When his beard felt "feminine" and he was most definitely not a he.

He...got...the...job. Particularly commended by leader Corbyn who said he was a welcome female addition to the group.
To work alongside other women on all the stuff that matters to women.

In getting the job, he resigned, claiming his whole story was a hoax, to show the preposterousness of these matters.
He promptly got thrown out of the party.
Ironic, insult women, get promoted. Insult the party (ie men like Corbyn), get penalised.

I remain convinced this is all a hoax. This guy is looking to see how far he can push things. How much he can expose Canada for supreme batshittery. He's doing a fine fine job.

I think this is who you're referring to. He didn't get the job, but well done him for showing up the stupidity of the whole gender identity thing and how much Labour lap it up.

'I enjoy the full womanness of my beard' 😂😂

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-gender-male-activist-suspend-feel-woman-david-lewis-basingstoke-a8364706.html#comments-area

Labour suspends male activist after identifying as a woman ‘on Wednesdays’

David Lewis attempted to expose flaws in the party's policy of allowing self-identifying trans women to stand on all-women shortlists

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-gender-male-activist-suspend-feel-woman-david-lewis-basingstoke-a8364706.html#comments-area

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:39

BloodyHellKen · 29/08/2023 09:30

I think this is who you're referring to. He didn't get the job, but well done him for showing up the stupidity of the whole gender identity thing and how much Labour lap it up.

'I enjoy the full womanness of my beard' 😂😂

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-gender-male-activist-suspend-feel-woman-david-lewis-basingstoke-a8364706.html#comments-area

He only didn't get the job because he revealed the prank immediately on being offered the job.
If he'd kept schtum, he'd be in the post.

BloodyHellKen · 29/08/2023 09:43

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:25

That's not what I think at all, as you'd know from my other angry posts on MN. I'm just saying that there is the possibility this is a hoax. Fwiw, I view Dylan Mulvaney as ostensibly a hoax as well.

Put it this way, if the shitshow implodes and the curtain is drawn back on this, I could see individuals like Dylan and this teacher shouting "Gotcha!"

Also, I can't be sure, but did I read a piece that said he's looking to be sacked or discriminated against so he can test the legal system to destruction.

Mr. Lay-dee Beard in the Labour Party didn't go that far. But this guy could re Canadian litigation.

I agree with you @RealityFan . I also suspect the Canadian teacher could be a hoax and he's just pushing the system because he can and possibly for financial gain/to show how ridiculous it all it. There are many photos of him out and about without his comedy breasts and dressed like an average guy. I'm absolutely amazed another school gave him a job though.

Dylan Mulvaney, not so much - I just think he's a massive grifter. The type who will do anything for money/fame. When eventually the wheels come off the whole 'living as a girl' grift I could see him ending up in 'empowering, feminist' porn (that would be his own take, not mine, I might add)🙄😂

BloodyHellKen · 29/08/2023 09:43

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:39

He only didn't get the job because he revealed the prank immediately on being offered the job.
If he'd kept schtum, he'd be in the post.

Sadly I suspect you're right which is one of the reasons I don't vote Labour anymore.

Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 29/08/2023 09:46

That makes me feel sick to my stomach, why are they allowing a pedophile around children? We can all be clear on the fact that overt sexual dressing and behaviour directed towards children is pedophilia, that has been the definition of it since the dawn of time.

PoshPineapple · 29/08/2023 09:48

I wonder what would happen if a pupil turned up looking that like?

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:53

Locking kids in with at best, an...eccentric, at worst, a...(let's not get this post deleted).

What is this story, aiming for craziest one yet in this Age Of Craziness?

Just watching photos of him in the machine shop shouts health and safety risk, let's alone child safeguarding risk all the time.

This individual and story serves so many functions. The whole ethos of TWAW is so outré, so logic defying, that it has extra powers of generating herd mentality.

I mean, to ascribe to this requires such a monumental handbrake turn of normal mental application and ethical standards, effectively to reprogram your outlook and instincts, that once you cross the rubicon, everything else becomes easier and easier.

Innuendo laden and queer theory infused DQSH? No problem, mums and toddlers queue up at libraries.

Male teacher claiming a hormonal imbalance permitting fetish breasts with erect nipples and a top whole sizes too small. No problem, c'mon teach our kids, at two schools now.

Lock the doors. No problem, we'll so exclude all risk including burning a whole class of kids to death, to assuage the sensitivities of one hoaxing fetishist.

I mean...how are we gonna explain this to Generation Alpha as they take custodianship of the world in the next decade?

How are we gonna explain this to ourselves?

Fwiw, stories like this may be the ones that break the internet, and precipitate the pendulum swinging back to normality.

AnSolas · 29/08/2023 10:04

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:25

That's not what I think at all, as you'd know from my other angry posts on MN. I'm just saying that there is the possibility this is a hoax. Fwiw, I view Dylan Mulvaney as ostensibly a hoax as well.

Put it this way, if the shitshow implodes and the curtain is drawn back on this, I could see individuals like Dylan and this teacher shouting "Gotcha!"

Also, I can't be sure, but did I read a piece that said he's looking to be sacked or discriminated against so he can test the legal system to destruction.

Mr. Lay-dee Beard in the Labour Party didn't go that far. But this guy could re Canadian litigation.

I think hoax is a poor word choice when what you are trying to say that it may be a set-up? I agree that compliance to stupid rules can work to a persons advantage. Years ago I was advised that in some large companies with Big HR the easiest way to become unsackable was to ID into a PC as few in HR would be willing to fund the cost of a legal case or risk bad PR.

Under the Canadian system as this employee is more likely to win than lose.

The Canadians were fine with a male engaging in blackmailing women for money using the threat of sexual assault.
Have you seen the government rushing to make services which require close physical contact with a males penis an exemption?

A school distict was happy to take a 6 year olds parents to court (on public money) rather than reassure the child she was a girl.

I would be very intrested in the differences between the two schools. Do the student body have the same social and economic profile to fund litigation.

Why would a school board and head teacher justify the introduction of a new risk of harm to the student body. How do they implement a safety protocal to deal with protest. "Locking" doors (assuming pushbars and alarms) are well and good for small scale protest but what is the plan if it ends up in a full scale riot which would require the total evacuation of the student body.
Rioting not "Very Canadian" but have the school board prepared and implemented training on what to do if it happened.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 29/08/2023 10:15

This is… I just can’t.

it’s especially jarring when one considers that many women do suffer from large breasts and can’t afford to have them reduced.

and when one considers how female teachers have been disciplined for inappropriate attire or behaviour outside the work place.

but this fetish wear in intentionally tight tops is apparently ok. Sure.

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 10:15

Jessica Yaniv right now is staring at the computer and saying "Kayla, my empire is in safe hands"

DarkDayforMN · 29/08/2023 10:22

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 09:25

That's not what I think at all, as you'd know from my other angry posts on MN. I'm just saying that there is the possibility this is a hoax. Fwiw, I view Dylan Mulvaney as ostensibly a hoax as well.

Put it this way, if the shitshow implodes and the curtain is drawn back on this, I could see individuals like Dylan and this teacher shouting "Gotcha!"

Also, I can't be sure, but did I read a piece that said he's looking to be sacked or discriminated against so he can test the legal system to destruction.

Mr. Lay-dee Beard in the Labour Party didn't go that far. But this guy could re Canadian litigation.

Normal men without paraphilias are not willing to parade around in front of schoolchildren in their care in fetish gear.

Paraphilia combined with gleeful disregard for safeguarding is both a sufficient and a necessary cause of this behaviour. Even if he subsequently came out and said it was a hoax- it wasn’t a hoax. He actually did expose children to this fetish. If anyone is going to be fooled by a “haha I was only kidding” after the fact, more fool them.

There is clearly a reason why some people are willing to believe the improbable idea that a man’s motivation for parading round in fetish gear in front of kids is nonsexual. It has to be the same as the standard defence mechanism that causes people to excuse obvious predators doing their thing in plain sight.

DarkDayforMN · 29/08/2023 10:29

There are many photos of him out and about without his comedy breasts and dressed like an average guy

Before he started wearing the fetish outfit to work he was recorded wearing it to a kids’ dance recital, till the parents got him to leave.

This kind of escalation is of course typical with paraphilia.

Helleofabore · 29/08/2023 10:33

Just parking this here as a reminder that this teacher has lied about the ‘natural’ breasts. This clip shows they are either magic and disappear occasionally or this male individual is a liar. And why would a school board employ a known liar?

BUSTED! We caught Kayla Lemieux at a shopping mall. He was NOT sporting his 'real' Z-cup breasts!

http://ProtectTheStudents.ca | MORE: https://rebelne.ws/3KK6S15Thanks to a chance encounter on Thursday afternoon at Mapleview Mall in Burlington, Ont., the ...

https://youtu.be/U37WhFe7w5s?si=1GMXIchjpFlcDHjg

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 10:47

DarkDayforMN · 29/08/2023 10:22

Normal men without paraphilias are not willing to parade around in front of schoolchildren in their care in fetish gear.

Paraphilia combined with gleeful disregard for safeguarding is both a sufficient and a necessary cause of this behaviour. Even if he subsequently came out and said it was a hoax- it wasn’t a hoax. He actually did expose children to this fetish. If anyone is going to be fooled by a “haha I was only kidding” after the fact, more fool them.

There is clearly a reason why some people are willing to believe the improbable idea that a man’s motivation for parading round in fetish gear in front of kids is nonsexual. It has to be the same as the standard defence mechanism that causes people to excuse obvious predators doing their thing in plain sight.

I couldn't agree with you more.
A hoax/prank would have been my Labour Party example...play the idiots to get the job, secretly record the whole thing, get the job, then resign and go public with THE FOOLS!

No, this Kayla (such a nice, safe name) gets the job, and then ramps the craziness up to Eleven.

Twice!

And now people high up aren't so much fawning around him as actively taking part in his fantasy, forcing everyone to take part in the charade.

This blip in human civic evolution depends on two things. A group of elites in charge of public policy (here, schools) who are fully in on the most outré attitudes, or at the very least falling in re compliance, and thus have battened down the hatches re herd mentality.

And a naturally resistant "client base" ie parents and the populace at large, who are expected to fall in, lest they be accused of the most heinous crime in Western society 2023, transphobia.

Put it this way, if this individual can be foisted on children, the doors locked to prevent resistance or demonstration, and parents do not remove their children en masse, then a massive step forward to entrenching this mentality is made. Elites able to enforce mantras totally at odds with Enlightenment humanism, our biologically evolved sense of risk and disgust, and onto a world of sheep, maybe churlish to start, but soon compliant.

Get this shit past us, and worse, accepted by us (even if grudgingly), and the next stage becomes so much easier to enforce.

Parents of Canada, over to you...

rabbitwoman · 29/08/2023 10:47

I have shown this story, and these photos, to several people.

They just don't belive me. Point blank refuse to believe that this is even happening. And of course, the fact that only The Mail seems to be reporting on it doesn't help.

I can understand people doubting the Mail's credibility when it comes to unbiased reporting, because when I have flicked through a copy at my mum's it's obvious what the focus is and why.

But this has devolved into people actually thinking the Mail will deliberately just outright lie to defame anyone who is transgender, because they just outright hate transgender people.....

This is where our institutional news outlets, such as the BBC, have really let everyone down over this issue. Not only do they refuse to report on the impacts of gender ideology around the world, they slate the journalist that try.

I am convinced that this is all coming to an end; one very high profile detransitioner, one news story, one more celebrity protecting women's sports, one more voice...... It will end soon, and when it does, part of the scandal will be why was it ignored.

Just like Savile. Or the Catholic Church. Or Rotherham......

RealityFan · 29/08/2023 10:54

rabbitwoman · 29/08/2023 10:47

I have shown this story, and these photos, to several people.

They just don't belive me. Point blank refuse to believe that this is even happening. And of course, the fact that only The Mail seems to be reporting on it doesn't help.

I can understand people doubting the Mail's credibility when it comes to unbiased reporting, because when I have flicked through a copy at my mum's it's obvious what the focus is and why.

But this has devolved into people actually thinking the Mail will deliberately just outright lie to defame anyone who is transgender, because they just outright hate transgender people.....

This is where our institutional news outlets, such as the BBC, have really let everyone down over this issue. Not only do they refuse to report on the impacts of gender ideology around the world, they slate the journalist that try.

I am convinced that this is all coming to an end; one very high profile detransitioner, one news story, one more celebrity protecting women's sports, one more voice...... It will end soon, and when it does, part of the scandal will be why was it ignored.

Just like Savile. Or the Catholic Church. Or Rotherham......

The world in 2023...an unholy mashup of Monty Python, Jam, Little Britain, National Enquirer, Sunday Sport, Readers Wives, and Viz.

Not sure that's what those proudly purporting the End Of History, organised religion and other foo and fake beliefs thought would be the end result when they wrote in the 90s and 00s