Beth Rigby interviews Iain Anderson

[Theeyeballsinthesky]

He does not do well!

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1682117673277337600?s=46&t=aWQLrPtVicDNf6MQpq5WVg

No puns intended

Couldn't quite place his accent tbh. I had a similar zero alcohol Irish brogue after living in London for 20 odd years so not being judgey.

@RealityFan I was on some forum during the 2020 US election and Arizona was very close. Someone asked ' Why aren't we doing better with Latinx voters, what can we do to reach them?'

'Stop calling us Latinx for a start ' was one reply. Which was ignored of course....

THE INTERVIEW

Iain Anderson went on TV,
but was no match for Beth Rigby.
He looked in shock
and went off half cock,
unable to sound coherent
as a genderwoo adherent.

He couldn’t get his answers out,
yet did a good line in facial pout.
He ummed and ahhed like it’s a sport,
glib excuses were his retort.
If the top of stonewall sounds so daft
I dread to think how they are staffed.

The support dog is now on overtime
after Iain’s almighty non-sublime
witterings of total incoherence.
His words showed up such impotence.
Just general buzz words were his stance,
as we all looked on with complete askance.

I bet he wished he hadn’t bothered.

Bravo Boiled. Another gem.

I wonder if Starmer said 'Look mate, you go on Sky and show us your new direction/policy/how we can do this and we will touch base after and see how it went'...

I really like to think so.

I've always thought of 'folk' as American dialect, where 'trans folks' was used to group a very different set of people together- older male transvestites, children and teens with gender confusion, drag queens etc.

Victoria Smith on Twitter has a good take on the Leah Thomas incoherent moment:
Victoria Smith@glosswitch
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7hThe absolute refusal to make any concession whatsoever to how the female competitors might feel is really striking. He knows that just saying "but they're the less important humans" isn't acceptable but is running out of code words.

'7hThe absolute refusal to make any concession whatsoever to how the female competitors might feel is really striking. He knows that just saying "but they're the less important humans" isn't acceptable but is running out of code words.'

Very well put. Beth quite rightly laboured the point about how the women in second and third positions must have been feeling. He either couldn't or wouldn't engage with that point. Tried to deflect with his own little quip about being rubbish at sport, but she wasn't having it!

@Boiledbeetle - fab poem!

I think Mr Anderson is a bigot and is prejudiced against women.

bigotˈbɪɡət
noun
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

I'm quite surprised that my opinion of Stonewall could fall any lower but it has.

They are restructuring society in a massive way but don't even have a coherent argument. Pathetic!

IW is now posting pictures of Katie Ledecky on twitter and calling her Lia in an attempt to make people think Katie looks like a man so it's fine to have men in womens' sports

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1682364131943251968

I did wonder this.

As had been noted, this also keeps focus on safety, and pushes.aside privacy and dignity. Which allows gender advocates to suggest that if its 'safe' women have no right to complain about men in their spaces.

Yep and I'm so glad that Beth said "don't give me that dodge" or words to that effect!

I loved it and thought BR have a fab job - faltered a bit during the sporting questions but still one of the best interviews I've seen. This is the first time I think I've seen someone from stonewall acknowledge that there is some clash between trans rights and women's rights too.

It certainly confirms my beliefs that we need to give people sufficient air time to explain their side of the argument and really shine some light on it so that people can make their own mind up away from sound bites and hashtags.

^Iain Anderson went on TV,
but was no match for Beth Rigby.^

The whole thing is fantastic BoiledBeetle. I'm just saving scrolling space by not quoting the whole post!

As for India W making derogatory comments about Katie Ledecky's appearance, I would have a lot more respect if she stopped saying she is more of a woman than women she considers don't look feminine enough. She did the same the other week with Sharron Davies and Martina Navratilova. It is absolutely horrible, and straight out of the Misogyny Rulebook

Gosh yes it’s impossible to tell Katie ledecky apart from a man isn’t it? Oh wait!

Blimey, I'm glad I'm not in a job where Beth Rigby is ever going to interview me!

Amazing how she utterly skewered him whilst remaining calm and polite. The way he kept breaking into that unctuous smile in the hope that she would give up - and she never did.

Appalling at the end - basically saying that females should give up fair competition in order for Lia and others to be kept happy!

The letter X avoids the sexism suggested by man and offers greater inclusivity and fluidity to genders beyond the male/female binary, such as for trans women or others who identify as women. Womxn is pronounced the same as woman or women.

https://www.wellandgood.com/folx-meaning/

I think it was very important how Beth him about the sportswomen’s feelings. Because up until that point it has always been about the men’s feelings, which are obviously of prime importance. Women’s feelings have not been considered before. I thought that was ground breaking. And rather than arguing or telling him how they might feel She kept on asking the same question. “How do you think women feel”. Brilliant.

Yes, but this recent move towards the use that term is not only quite pronounced but actually seems quite calculated - and to my mind reflects its American origins.

...to which his one and only response, which he kept repeating, was that in surveys "most women support trans rights"; which Beth did a great job of picking up on by saying it was not a zero sum game; that women could care about trans rights and still want single sex spaces.

He then falls back on the " we want everyone to live thier best and most fulfilling lives" blah blah blah!

'I thought that was ground breaking. And rather than arguing or telling him how they might feel She kept on asking the same question. “How do you think women feel”. Brilliant.'

Totally agree. She did a great job of centring women's concerns throughout the interview

'He then falls back on the " we want everyone to live thier best and most fulfilling lives"blah blah blah'

Such absolute waffle. Disgraceful from someone in his position

Katie Ledecky is one of the most accomplished athletes in history. She has no particular physical gifts (these things have been extensively measured during her career), she just works hella hard and has put in consistent effort living clean and training for decades.

To have a whiny no-mark like IW cast aspersions on her appearance, well fuck that, quite frankly. What has IW ever achieved except having meltdowns on social media and telly.

I agree. I'm in the US. I've noticed for more than a year that anyone on NPR who has had media training consistently uses "folk". It means they don't have to commit to man or woman and it has a down-home, cosy feel that "people" doesn't have. The number of "pregnant folk" I've heard talked about is astonishing.

Beth is brilliant in this interview, there were still a few little areas of Iain's face not profusely sweating, and I wish it had gone on for a little longer to remedy that, no matter, the man was a squirming gibbering wreck for all to see. As an aside, he would've done brilliantly on the old TV show 'Take Your Pick' where contestants mustn't say 'yes' or 'no'

Quuer Theory is predicated on achieving social change through linguistic manipulation.

Being aware of such obvious or sudden appearances of new terminolgy and phrases is well worth paying attention to.