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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This is outrageous - medical paper argues that wanting healthy, undeformed babies should be "queered"

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Sidaway · 18/07/2023 08:38

So shocked I'm beyond words. I read on Twitter this morning that a paper, in a mainstream medical journal published by Elsevier, says:

"The authors argue that “gendered” pregnancy care is too focused on helping women have healthy babies, and that it might be okay for transmen to continue taking testosterone during pregnancy despite the known health risks to the fetus and effects on its normal development. The desire for “normal fetal outcomes,” according to the authors, is rooted in a problematic desire “to protect their offspring from becoming anything other than ‘normal’” and “reflect historical and ongoing social practices for creating ‘ideal’ and normative bodies."

https://twitter.com/babybeginner/status/1681087794998030337
https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/is-there-a-doctor-in-the-house

The queer lobby must really, really hate children.

What did Elsevier think they were doing by publishing this? They should be called out for this very hard.

https://twitter.com/babybeginner/status/1681087794998030337

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jotajil · 29/08/2023 11:04

Thank you for this information. This surely cant be happening. I want to cry.

jotajil · 29/08/2023 11:19

Elsevier Apparently are another advisory agency who 'helps researchers and healthcare professionals advance science and improve health outcomes for the benefit of society.'

Really?!
Advance science?!
And how do they do that?

I would turn help, advance, improve outcomes, benefit of society into their opposites

Who are they? What qualifies them to advise scientists and medical experts, apart from an ideology?
Is anyone taking any notice?

Also I am not going to use their nonsense vocabulary as if it means something.

Dineasair · 08/05/2024 02:14

potniatheron · 18/07/2023 09:26

There is a 'trans man' v active on tik tok - Exulansic has a few videos on her. She boasts of taking testosterone for most of her pregnancy as didn't realise she could get pregnant on it. Anyways, her videos are chilling - she speaks in very dismissive terms of her baby daughter (maybe PND?) and is prioritising 'transgender surgeries' over her baby's health, and if going into $ tens of thousands debt for those surgeries.

The most worrying thing to me is the baby - the woman talks about (and mocks) the baby's unfocussed eyes and floppiness (baby is about 6 months now). Baby often heard crying in another room during the videos - has a very strange, almost cat like monotonous mewl. I don't know if that's a red flag for anything but she doesn't sound like my babies did at that age. Or any babies I've ever met, really.

Any medical people on here can give insight? The description of that cry sounds very like a friend of mines daughter, who has a disabling genetic condition called Cri du chat syndrome, it’s French for “cry of the cat” I think. It’s very characteristic of that monotonous mewling cry, and she has unfocused eyes too.

AppleStrudel23 · 08/05/2024 04:20

This is a hard topic when a foetus doesn't even have a right to life let alone a right to stay healthy..

Controversial I know but if we're allowed to kill them why can't they be potentially harmed in the womb? (I believe humans have a right to life from conception before anyone thinks I'm condoning this)

Igneococcus · 08/05/2024 06:48

Cris du chat is caused by a partial deletion of chromosome 5. A health professional should have picked up on it if this child has the condition, it's a very distinctive sound.

Dineasair · 08/05/2024 10:17

Igneococcus · 08/05/2024 06:48

Cris du chat is caused by a partial deletion of chromosome 5. A health professional should have picked up on it if this child has the condition, it's a very distinctive sound.

That’s what I thought too, it’s unmistakable.

duc748 · 08/05/2024 12:00

Flashes From the Archive of Oblivion

Roy Harper fan?

Grammarnut · 08/05/2024 12:25

FoodFann · 18/07/2023 08:42

I feel physically sick.

Me too. But this was an inevitable consequence of queer theory, I suspect.

Grammarnut · 08/05/2024 12:27

SerendipityJane · 08/05/2024 08:05

Obsessive.

SerendipityJane · 08/05/2024 12:29

duc748 · 08/05/2024 12:00

Flashes From the Archive of Oblivion

Roy Harper fan?

Whatever happened to Jugula ?

duc748 · 08/05/2024 12:39

All I remember of that is the cover art! I'm more of a 70s person as far as RH is concerned.

Redrosegirlie · 08/05/2024 15:42

NicCageisnotNickCave · 18/07/2023 08:51

Meanwhile, over in the normie land, many pregnant women agonise over having a single glass of fizz at a wedding and burst into tears when the breakfast eggs they ordered in an cafe are served runny.

This.
99.999% of pregnant women want to give birth to a healthy baby without any complication and are happy for 9 months that their own needs and wants are secondary.
How utterly self centred are these people?

Valeriekat · 10/05/2024 01:16

Well it isn't a research paper is it? Its an opinion piece.

OldCrone · 10/05/2024 06:47

Valeriekat · 10/05/2024 01:16

Well it isn't a research paper is it? Its an opinion piece.

What makes you think this is an opinion piece, not a research paper?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667321523000811?via%3Dihub

SSM - Qualitative Research in Health is a peer-reviewed, open access journal that publishes international and interdisciplinary qualitative research, methodological, and theoretical contributions related to medical care, illness, disease, health, and wellbeing from across the globe.

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