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In Italy, groping children is fine if it's under ten seconds.

53 replies

ArabeIIaScott · 12/07/2023 16:43

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66174352

Get your hands off girls and keep them to yourself you fucking fucks. The man should be in prison. And sack the judge.

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Italian uproar over judge's 10-second groping rule

Young Italians object to the acquittal of a school caretaker who admitted groping a teenage student.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66174352

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Grimchmas · 12/07/2023 20:00

@PuttingDownRoots if the law has good that he's done "nothing wrong" I doubt he will lose his job over it. 😡

ScrollingLeaves · 12/07/2023 20:03

BabylonianChild · Today 17:38
If her father punched him in the face for less than 10 seconds the that wouldn’t be physical assault either then.

Well said.

Solovelyt · 12/07/2023 20:05

ScrollingLeaves · 12/07/2023 20:03

BabylonianChild · Today 17:38
If her father punched him in the face for less than 10 seconds the that wouldn’t be physical assault either then.

Well said.

I was going to say very similar because surely it’s the same logic or am I really thick?

Amblesidebadger · 12/07/2023 20:07

Wow. Is there a petition or anything we can sign? This is horrific.

Oncemoreunderthebridge · 12/07/2023 20:17

PuttingDownRoots · 12/07/2023 19:59

I hope he's at least be sacked!!

Probably not. It's nigh on impossible to sack someone in Italy. This ruling is awful but wasn't it in Italy that a judge ruled a woman couldn't be raped if she was wearing jeans as they were hard to remove?? 😡

DuesToTheDirt · 12/07/2023 20:20

Grimchmas · 12/07/2023 19:59

@mrshenny right??

It makes me want to train teenage girls to punch first and ask questions later. After all, a punch lasts for less than a second, and is clearly just a joke in response.

I once did punch a guy who groped me. But I do wish I'd been trained first as my punch wasn't very effective (I had never punched anyone before, nor since!)

StopStartStop · 12/07/2023 20:21

So. All young women are fair game in Italy. Get a quick grope whenever you like.

I'm furious. Disgusted. Horrified.

jelliestfish · 12/07/2023 20:35

I can't work out from that article whether the judge has based his ruling on an actual Italian law or he's made up this bizarre time requirement? Either way, it's clearly something that needs to be reviewed and overturned.

littlbrowndog · 12/07/2023 20:40

10 seconds. Ffs is that how sexual abuse is now counted

42isthemeaning · 12/07/2023 21:02

I was grabbed by a waiter in a hotel in Sorrento at the same age. He tried to kiss me, forcing me up against a wall in a stairwell. He leered at me every time he saw me after that. I was petrified he'd get into the room one night.
Unfortunately I wasn't believed when I told the relative I was with.
This makes me sick.

TheABC · 12/07/2023 21:37

This reminds me of Scottish rape case where the guy walked free with a community service order (Sean Hogg).

When are just seen as disposable.

mumyes · 12/07/2023 21:39

Utterly shocking

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 12/07/2023 21:48

Every time I think things can’t get any more unbelievably bad another story breaks. Stop the world I want to get off.

BabyStopCryin · 13/07/2023 07:06

So it’s ok to have a man’s goolies in a death grip for 9.5 seconds?

ArabeIIaScott · 13/07/2023 08:46

The thing is that if the law fails so badly then there will be plenty of people willing to step in and resolve matters themselves. How are Italian fathers going to respond to this? Being told anyone can molest their daughters? This will result in violence.

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PuttingDownRoots · 13/07/2023 08:49

ArabeIIaScott · 13/07/2023 08:46

The thing is that if the law fails so badly then there will be plenty of people willing to step in and resolve matters themselves. How are Italian fathers going to respond to this? Being told anyone can molest their daughters? This will result in violence.

I was thinking that... he might be "innocent", he might keep his job... but so many men, who might oogle other girls will only respond way if their own daughters are threatened.

Grimchmas · 13/07/2023 19:56

@DuesToTheDirt I'm glad you did. I dislocated a man's shoulder when he did it to me in a club, more by luck than judgement. I sincerely hope he never did it to anybody again.

DuesToTheDirt · 13/07/2023 20:33

Grimchmas · 13/07/2023 19:56

@DuesToTheDirt I'm glad you did. I dislocated a man's shoulder when he did it to me in a club, more by luck than judgement. I sincerely hope he never did it to anybody again.

Oof, well done you!

For me it was just instinct, no thought went into it. Due to the public location and other circumstances though, I didn't feel threatened by him. I probably would have reacted differently on my own in a dark alleyway.

Brefugee · 13/07/2023 21:08

i taught my daughters how to punch.
I have punched precisely two men for grabbing my breasts - one in a bar - i laid him out flat (he was very drunk). One in the street and my punch was a reflex. Going for his chin, got his throat which was much more satisfying.

StefanosHill · 13/07/2023 21:18

Wtf

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/07/2023 07:40

What an insane ruling. If I kicked the judge in for 9 seconds I'd surely be arrested?

Boiledbeetle · 15/07/2023 09:31

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/07/2023 07:40

What an insane ruling. If I kicked the judge in for 9 seconds I'd surely be arrested?

Probably.

However if you were to stick your hands down the front of his trousers and squeeze the hell out of the contents of his underpants whilst hurting and embarrassing him in front of his friends/work colleagues THEN you would be fine!

Having had a few days now to think on the subject of this thread I'm still in shock over this ruling!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 09:33

Quite aside from anything else it was assault

the guy injured her

i really hope this doesn’t stand

FrancescaContini · 15/07/2023 09:35

Unbelievable but somehow doesn’t surprise me given that the patriarchy is very much alive and kicking in Italy.

I wonder how the judge would feel if the caretaker in the courthouse groped him for ten seconds on the stairwell, and pulled down his trousers? What would happen to the caretaker? I think we know the answer.

Bravissime sono le donne italiane!