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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Little OJ citing those brave suffragettes

34 replies

RatatouilleAndFeta · 10/07/2023 07:05

Does he not see his hypocrisy?

https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1676954179510878209?s=46

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RatatouilleAndFeta · 10/07/2023 07:06

The suffragettes would be turning in their graves at you little man!

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zanahoria · 10/07/2023 07:28

He is doing his wrong side of history thing again

Assuming that he is the future

Unbelievably arrogant

DiscoBoots · 10/07/2023 07:40

I detest LOJ's stance on the trans debate and women's rights but I think he has a point here and I agree with some of his other politics. It's a very confusing place to be for me but just because he's an odious little worm on women's rights does not mean everything he says deserves to be painted with the same shit brush.

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 07:48

The arrogance just pours out of him doesn’t it? The fact that he’s using a woman’s right movement to counter argue the right of JSO whilst systematically misunderstanding feminism in EVERY TWEET he writes about gender ideology just boggles the kind.

Has anyone actually researched the multimillionaire that funds JSO? I can’t remember his name but I’m sure there’s a back story with him that won’t be as virtuous as he likes to signal.

PatatiPatatras · 10/07/2023 07:59

It's the same reasoning used to paint women as nazis. That's why it is uncomfortable despite being something we'd initially all have agreed with.

The main difference being: the suffragettes were not prophesying a future devastating impact or a feeling of perceived injustice. They were protesting injustices actively happening to them. No feelings or future involved. JustStopOil and TRAs are definitely not doing that but the nuance is being air brushed away.

I don't like it. That was a feel good, almost the truth, sound bite. But it wasn't entirely the truth.

IcakethereforeIam · 10/07/2023 09:23

Is he advocating for JSO to get more violent? I don't think he is, but it could be interpreted that way.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 10/07/2023 09:59

LOJ is the king of sixth form politics and thinking.

Why people pay to hear is inane views is a mystery to me.

DerekFaker · 10/07/2023 10:02

Loads of us are blocked by Jones. Can anyone take a screenshot?

Kevinscousin · 10/07/2023 10:06

@RudsyFarmer on go on do tell. Or give us a clue. I thought it was just his upbringing and landing lucky. It's definitely not his talent anyway. ( I've had a few run ins with his mum over the years who is ten times worse regarding gender ideology). He's a nasty wee naff.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 10/07/2023 10:09

DerekFaker · 10/07/2023 10:02

Loads of us are blocked by Jones. Can anyone take a screenshot?

Its a video clip of loj comparing jso to the suffragettes saying how wonderful the suffragettes were when we look back but how hated at the time

ThisTimeIts · 10/07/2023 10:09

The king of exaggeration.

Even Greta deleted her tweet about the world ending in ten years or 2025 or whatever it was.

There are issues with the climate, it's been a long term issue, thankfully something's did not come to pass.

I would take people more seriously, about it being an emergency, if they closed up their big houses, moved to four bedroom standard homes and quit flying in private jets whilst lecturing and taxing the poor. 🤔

Thelnebriati · 10/07/2023 10:10

It's a false analogy. The correct analogy would be to list the bad things the oil industry have done, such as repeatedly spilling oil into the ocean, as justification for protesting the oil industry.

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 10:19

Kevinscousin · 10/07/2023 10:06

@RudsyFarmer on go on do tell. Or give us a clue. I thought it was just his upbringing and landing lucky. It's definitely not his talent anyway. ( I've had a few run ins with his mum over the years who is ten times worse regarding gender ideology). He's a nasty wee naff.

It’s not a secret. He openly talks about it. His name is Dale Vince.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12256025/amp/Labour-Just-Stop-Oil-donor-defends-climate-disruption-political-donations.html

Call me a cynic but I think if you are entrepreneurial and have made your money being money savvy there will be a financial benefit if you are funding political parties and pressure groups.

Millionaire Labour and Just Stop Oil donor defends climate disruption

Dale Vince (pictured) was questioned on Sky News' Sophy Ridge on Sunday about the £1.5million donations he has made to the Labour party over the decade.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12256025/amp/Labour-Just-Stop-Oil-donor-defends-climate-disruption-political-donations.html

DerekFaker · 10/07/2023 10:22

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 10/07/2023 10:09

Its a video clip of loj comparing jso to the suffragettes saying how wonderful the suffragettes were when we look back but how hated at the time

Hahahaha! Bloody hell!

DerekFaker · 10/07/2023 10:23

Thanks Baroness

RebelliousCow · 10/07/2023 10:32

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 10:19

It’s not a secret. He openly talks about it. His name is Dale Vince.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12256025/amp/Labour-Just-Stop-Oil-donor-defends-climate-disruption-political-donations.html

Call me a cynic but I think if you are entrepreneurial and have made your money being money savvy there will be a financial benefit if you are funding political parties and pressure groups.

To be fair, Dale Vince does not come from wealth. He left school at 15 and was living on peace camps and as a part of the 'peace convoy' in the early 1980's - at the same time that I was.

ThisTimeIts · 10/07/2023 10:33

Matthew Goodwin described these people in his recent tweets.

RebelliousCow · 10/07/2023 10:34

He now owns Forest Green Rovers and it is the first Vegan football club. approve of JSO or not, he does aim to live by his principles.

maltravers · 10/07/2023 10:41

He’s trying to show he doesn’t have a woman problem by referencing the suffragettes. They’re from about a century ago so their demands and opinions won’t inconvenience him in 2023 luckily for him.

RebelliousCow · 10/07/2023 10:42

maltravers · 10/07/2023 10:41

He’s trying to show he doesn’t have a woman problem by referencing the suffragettes. They’re from about a century ago so their demands and opinions won’t inconvenience him in 2023 luckily for him.

Yes, the misogyny accusations sting him...and he always attempts a compensatory move in order to negate that.

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 10:56

RebelliousCow · 10/07/2023 10:32

To be fair, Dale Vince does not come from wealth. He left school at 15 and was living on peace camps and as a part of the 'peace convoy' in the early 1980's - at the same time that I was.

I just know people who are good at making money like making money. It’s their thing and they’re passion. Maybe the politics align with his, maybe he is a great bloke, but he’ll be making money all the same.

RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 10:58

RebelliousCow · 10/07/2023 10:34

He now owns Forest Green Rovers and it is the first Vegan football club. approve of JSO or not, he does aim to live by his principles.

Of course he lives by his principles. Those principles earn him his living!

Boiledbeetle · 10/07/2023 12:00

I've got to the point where Owen could be saying something eminently sensible and worthy of listening to but all I hear when he opens his mouth these days is "blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"

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