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Archbishop of Canterbury - cut University funding if trans people insulted

148 replies

redfacebigdisgrace · 07/07/2023 09:13

Wow. Equating it with anti semitism. Loved the thoughtful “whatever”. There says the privileged man.

Archbishop of Canterbury: Cut university funding if students insulted

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ff59e248-1c6a-11ee-8198-bf96b6365670?shareToken=8c12ffb262fd2ec2ecb0e23f02b1f7b5

Archbishop of Canterbury: Cut university funding if students insulted

The Archbishop of Canterbury has said that universities should face funding cuts if they allow minorities such as transgender or Jewish students to be insulted

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ff59e248-1c6a-11ee-8198-bf96b6365670?shareToken=8c12ffb262fd2ec2ecb0e23f02b1f7b5

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RebelliousCow · 07/07/2023 19:42

The Archbishop of Canterbury used to be the Dean at Liverpool Cathedral - I think at the same time as Paul Bayes was bishop?

DysonSpheres · 07/07/2023 19:43

Thatgirl1981 · 07/07/2023 19:31

What secular people don’t know is that many of the bishops are homosexual and 16% are agnostic yes they don’t even believe in god

that is why wokeby Wellby has been removed from the head of the CofE

this why we prayer rooms at hospitals draped with pride flags and trans flags

this is why church schools are telling children there are 3 sexes

There is transwoman Archdeacon as well.

This is why I'm surprised anyone declares the Anglican church to be conservative in any way.

It makes sense that it can't really afford to be and stay relevant or have any power. With Prince Charles the wokery will increase until it may no longer stand for anything meaningful in the christian sense, but it will survive. Welby knows this.

JacquelinePot · 07/07/2023 19:53

As posters have said, it must be terribly, terribly hard to be so very marginalised that you have EVERY INSTITUTION FIGHTING FOR YOU...

...schools, universities, the police, the NHS, the CPS, Labour, Greens, Lib Dems and elements of the Tory party, myriad Councils, the judiciary, the prison service, governing bodies and member organisations, all the unions, the charity sector and pretty much all corporations. And of as per this thread, the church.

Just. So. Marginalised...

EdithStourton · 07/07/2023 20:03

Note to self:
Write to Justin Welby, outlining why this CofE congregant is mightily pissed off by this attitude.

eggcupboard · 07/07/2023 20:10

If you're an actual Christian, why bother with the CofE? There are loads of other churches around. Like Elim for example, I think it's the fastest growing denomination in the UK right now.

TheCyclingGorilla · 07/07/2023 20:12

I no more think God is real than I think a person can change sex. I think the two belief systems are intrinsically linked, and the AOC is both its champion.

He's no supporter of women in my view.

Thatgirl1981 · 07/07/2023 20:50

We don’t i left with my family 4 years ago
the evangelical church has grown exponentially and vicars are jumping ship in droves

married vicars are causing their own issues in the Catholic Church but 🤷🏿‍♂️

are church is standing room only most times the local C of E would be lucky if they can get 20 people

we don’t need SJW lore we have the bible it tells us how to treat peoplE

the CofE will die young people don’t want SJW light

Jesus was counter cultural we expect to be hated for our obedience to the bible are happy if we’re not Wellby will kill of the church

wait till people find out his views of desecration of body

he was championing human composting 😡

Thatgirl1981 · 07/07/2023 21:02

TheCyclingGorilla · 07/07/2023 20:12

I no more think God is real than I think a person can change sex. I think the two belief systems are intrinsically linked, and the AOC is both its champion.

He's no supporter of women in my view.

I don’t agree the majorly of Christians

jews and Muslims do not believe this

their is not link between being religious and believing that you can change sex

we are called in our fair to not bare false witness

their is a link between people who believe in intersectionality and the gender woo woo their is a large contingent of left wing people who believe this

I don’t know if it’s because their reacting to the right

or don’t know when their have won and are just looking for their next civil rights win

or are using this a a vehicle to push cultural Marxism if you can get people to say bob is a women you can get them to say anything

ZebraDilemma · 07/07/2023 21:04

redfacebigdisgrace · 07/07/2023 09:16

To add, of course no one should be bullied or insulted. However by saying I think a trans woman is a man am I insulting them? I bet they would say so. So therefore to state biological reality I am insulting them and University funding should be cut. Chilling.

It’s appalling isn’t it.
Sit down Arch Bishop.

Rudderneck · 07/07/2023 22:52

Honestly, harassment is obviously problematic, but if we are going to have discussions that some might find offensive, about GI, or Antisemitism or whatever - presumably the university is the sort of place where that is meant to happen?

People who don't want to do that kind of thing don't need to be there.

PaterPower · 07/07/2023 23:57

”Would they be stolen frilly knickers from a washing line by chance?”

I was under the impression that the preferred source, for the more discerning man about town, was the luggage carousel at an airport (allegedly)?

But perhaps, in these straitened times, a return to basics makes sense.

Parisite · 08/07/2023 00:12

Thatgirl1981 · 07/07/2023 19:31

What secular people don’t know is that many of the bishops are homosexual and 16% are agnostic yes they don’t even believe in god

that is why wokeby Wellby has been removed from the head of the CofE

this why we prayer rooms at hospitals draped with pride flags and trans flags

this is why church schools are telling children there are 3 sexes

Hang on, you're claiming 16% of the bishops of the Church of England are agnostics? Where on earth do you get that statistic from?

I know several C of E bishops as friends, and lots more from working with them. I don't agree with them all on everything, and I certainly don't agree with the silly words from the Archbishop on trans.

But there's no question that they are all practising Christians, of one tradition or another.

That figure is just nonsense.

Rudderneck · 08/07/2023 00:16

I'd have no problem believing 16% of CofE clergy are agnostics.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/07/2023 01:10

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/survey-finds-2-of-anglican-priests-are-not-believers-9821899.html

Maybe that poster is thinking of this which was about CofE clergy in general rather than bishops?

LadyVictoriaSponge · 08/07/2023 01:23

I’m not religious but Justin Welby has always given me the absolute creeps, I have always found him utterly repugnant and I bristle every time he pops up on tv.

ThisTimeIts · 08/07/2023 06:51

*kissing witches and bitches

ThisTimeIts · 08/07/2023 06:56

Finally, it has been made clear that you will focus mainly on theological and doctrinal matters and will leave efforts in fighting the abuse crisis to the experts inside of your new dicastery. However, child protection remains a large part of what your dicastery does and it is an important topic for the Catholic Church. How will you support efforts in child protection and where does the abuse crisis fall in terms of your priorities as you step into your new role?

Take a look at his teens book and keep an eye out in the Catholic schools for Queer theory, once this dude gets going!

RhubarbCrumbled · 08/07/2023 07:02

I've been regularly to Canterbury Cathedral over the last few years and the changes there are awful. The new Dean being the worst appointment they could have possibly made. It used to be such a lovely and welcoming place to be, and many of those working there made it that way. I'm not religious but the atmosphere and music were very special.

There's been a shift back towards the very old values of the church - 'the men are in charge, you're all wrong, give us your cash or you'll go to hell'.

Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 07:08

Parisite · 08/07/2023 00:12

Hang on, you're claiming 16% of the bishops of the Church of England are agnostics? Where on earth do you get that statistic from?

I know several C of E bishops as friends, and lots more from working with them. I don't agree with them all on everything, and I certainly don't agree with the silly words from the Archbishop on trans.

But there's no question that they are all practising Christians, of one tradition or another.

That figure is just nonsense.

I think people really have no idea how badly Wellby as dragged down the church he wasn’t just kicked out because he woke he has over seen the dismantling of the Anglican Communion

that’s why we had been removed

on every topic from desecration of the body

to promoting vicars who are non believers he is on the secular side and not of the bible

he is an apostate

Archbishop of Canterbury - cut University funding if trans people insulted
Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 07:14

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/survey-finds-2-of-anglican-priests-are-not-believers-9821899.html

the theology collages

c of e schools are captured

they have bishops who are openly having sex who are not married

complete swallowing or gender and race woo
he believes in desecration of the body he wants to being in human composting 😳

he allows vicars who don’t believe to lead and from the non believers he promotes bishops that’s why they are are woke

it’s very simple you can be woke and religious
we should not follow false prophets
Wellby has now become a false prophet

Survey finds 2 per cent of Anglican priests are not believers

As many as 16 per cent are agnostic

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/survey-finds-2-of-anglican-priests-are-not-believers-9821899.html

Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 07:18

RhubarbCrumbled · 08/07/2023 07:02

I've been regularly to Canterbury Cathedral over the last few years and the changes there are awful. The new Dean being the worst appointment they could have possibly made. It used to be such a lovely and welcoming place to be, and many of those working there made it that way. I'm not religious but the atmosphere and music were very special.

There's been a shift back towards the very old values of the church - 'the men are in charge, you're all wrong, give us your cash or you'll go to hell'.

😂 a shift back to the old church their really has not

as you say your not a Christian so you will have no clue

Wellby and the secular bishops are pro abortion

pro euthanasia

pro sexual before marriage

pro CRT

so when you say the old was adhering to the bible the reasons why Christians follow the bible no they have gone back to it their following the culture again Wellby has been removed as the head of the Anglican Communion

RhubarbCrumbled · 08/07/2023 07:25

@Thatgirl1981 I was referring to the medieval tradition when it was 'give us all the cash and going to hell if you disagree'! The super hypocritical time. Not the sort of hypocritical time.

Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 07:30

Parisite · 08/07/2023 00:12

Hang on, you're claiming 16% of the bishops of the Church of England are agnostics? Where on earth do you get that statistic from?

I know several C of E bishops as friends, and lots more from working with them. I don't agree with them all on everything, and I certainly don't agree with the silly words from the Archbishop on trans.

But there's no question that they are all practising Christians, of one tradition or another.

That figure is just nonsense.

And if you have friends that are bishops in the uk they are not Christians I am afraid

their was only one bishop who voted against Wellby if it’s not your friend then they voted for all the motions that led to Wellby be removed as the 1st among equals

you can’t be woke and religious

there is no such thing as affirming church

Wellby is an apostate this is being openly said now and so are the bishops who may I add would not be able to work as bishop in any other domination because of their lack of faith

Parisite · 08/07/2023 07:47

Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 07:30

And if you have friends that are bishops in the uk they are not Christians I am afraid

their was only one bishop who voted against Wellby if it’s not your friend then they voted for all the motions that led to Wellby be removed as the 1st among equals

you can’t be woke and religious

there is no such thing as affirming church

Wellby is an apostate this is being openly said now and so are the bishops who may I add would not be able to work as bishop in any other domination because of their lack of faith

You've said in a few of your posts that Welby has been removed as head of the Anglican Communion. No he hasn't. He's still head of the C of E and the Anglican Communion.

You're probably referring to the fact that some world Anglican leaders (mainly in Africa) have said they don't recognise his authority, but that isn't the same as him being removed.

You can debate whether Welby and other C of E bishops are a good or bad thing. But your case is less credible if you say things that are factually untrue (see also your claim about 16% of bishops being agnostics: turns out the source for that was never about bishops at all).