Are we beginning to see the push back against the extreme left

[Hoardasurass]

As I read this article and the descriptions of these women and their political agenda all I could think of is how far to the left the Overton window has been pushed that these women are considered far right, the fact that these women are not the typical/traditional Conservative type is mentioned and that a lot of this is due to a push back against trans demands. Quite a refreshing article that gives me hope that the extreme left have massively over played their hand.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-march-of-europes-right-wing-women/

The best we can hope for in UK is that Starmer doesn't get a mandate in 2028 for a Kemi Badenoch or Miriam Cates run Tory party (sorry Liz and Suella, your chances have gone).

That is, the best for those of us who still believe in a conservative mindset in politics, naturally encompassing GC worldview.

This will now never come from the left or left leaning parties.

Recent Matt Walsh tweet:

"The Left has never lost control of an issue and a narrative as quickly and as completely as they have with the trans issue. They are in uncharted waters now and they’re panicking. And they should be."

The left rants on constantly about money and sex.

It's their only concern. Attacking the right over not giving them enough money and attacking the right over any restrictions on making everything about their sex lives.

At least one of those parties, Vox, is fascist, not just right wing.

The transgender agenda has managed very successfully to insert itself in mediocre left-wing parties, but it is the ultimate neo-liberal movement based on extreme individualism and profits for the pharmaceutical industry.

Meanwhile, the lower and middle-class flood victims in Italy have had zero assistance from their lovely new right-wing government.

Quite a refreshing article that gives me hope that the extreme left have massively over played their hand.

I'm hoping the same for the neoliberal right.

all I could think of is how far to the left the Overton window has been pushed that these women are considered far right

The national front have always been considered far right. Whether it's parties that were fringe before getting power or nutters like trump taking over mainstream parties I don't think the overton window has remotely shifted to the left- it has, however, widened to allow in extremists at both ends because existing political parties have become disengaged From their supporters.

I also don't think Genderism is at all left wing, let alone far left. Internationally it's latched itself to the left far more than the right or centre but that varies a lot and is about the age of supporters and the method of entryism, rather it's underlying political ideology.

The transgender agenda has managed very successfully to insert itself in mediocre left-wing parties, but it is the ultimate neo-liberal movement based on extreme individualism and profits for the pharmaceutical industry.

Agree totally. There is nothing inherently left-wing about it. But you have to admit that it is depressing how many left-wing and liberal people have fallen for it.

Erm, no. The AFD and the Front National?! Fuck right off.

I have to disagree. Gender ideology is a subset of identity politics, and identity politics is the creation of the left.

The libertarian right has no qualms about using it for it's own purposes, and in many ways it's not amenable to a traditional leftist politics. (But then, neither are many of the other causes the left seems to champion these days, like globalism.)

But that doesn't make it right wing. It comes out of a marxist understanding of oppression hierarchies that is tied to collectivist identities rather than economic class. The queer-folk are the new proletariat in this version of reality, and in the end, we all need to be subsumed within the proletariat or we are oppressors.

Of course just like traditional marxism, in the end the power hungry just use those categories to rise to the top and advantage themselves. (Which is much the same on the right, it's a feature of power hungry people more than of systems.)

What’s next, OP? ‘Hurrah for the blackshirts’?

That Matt Walsh quote in interesting though. I think he may be on to something there.

Trans ideology is a complete gift. All anyone to the right of the extreme leftists who support it have to do is show the voting public a huge man in women’s sport, Isla Bryson in his pink leggings, or get a bumbling cowardly politician to stumble over a basic question like “what is a woman?” and the voting public see a group of incompetent imbeciles.

I have to disagree. Gender ideology is a subset of identity politics, and identity politics is the creation of the left.

It's a very new and confused left though that has swallowed neoliberal individualism.

I don't think it's "inherent to the left" but it's certainly being pushed by the left.

The conservatives that went along with it, I think they just accepted it as part of the LGBT agenda. Gay marriage had recently won out, and they didn't want to be the "bigots" standing against the next thing.

Do stop saying that the “extreme left” support trans ideology- they categorically do not!
The Communist Party of GB is gender critical, views women as a sex class and fully accepts that their oppression is sex related.
It is the liberal left of centre- Labour, Lib Dem’s, Greens - who are peddling this crap.
DD is the Women’s Officer for the Edinburgh branch of the Communists, and is so gender critical she actually writes and performs the Dylan Mulvaney send up spoof on Youtube called “Days of Boyhood”.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-23/ital-s-cabinet-approves-2-billion-in-aid-to-flood-hit-areas

Your DD is fab, Babdoc, and so funny

The Communist Party of GB is part of the far-left.

Here is another part:

https://socialistworker.co.uk/press-releases/swp-response-to-letter-from-womans-place-uk/

"The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) stands with the oppressed and unequivocally says, “Trans women are women,” and, “Trans men are men.” Trans people have the right to organise against their oppression and the right to protest against it. We stood in solidarity with the trans students and workers at the University of Sussex who were rightly outraged by Kathleen Stock’s views."

I will not applaud the return of fascism to Europe as a GC success.

The whole world was/has been played by the transgender agenda. Lots of people from both left and right fell for the "BeKind" motto but it was the Tory government in the UK who wanted to bring in self-ID. Gay marriage had been such a cheap and vote-catching move, they wanted more of that.

The fact that one faction of Marxists supports minorities, does not make transgenderism a Marxist issue and much less a Marxist plot.

There's a very big part of libertarianism on the Right. Adam Smith economics and Ayn Rand individualism, which has embraced transgenderism, seeing gender as pure personal choice, ultimate expression of freewill, and a prerequisite for free expression of body and soul ie transhumanism.

That's why trans is so endemic and so deeply ingrained amongst the elites, it's philosophy is both right AND left.

A typical Rightist proponent, Tom Hardwood off GB News.

YABU. Native German here and the rise of the AfD is nothing to do with trans issues. They were founded on an anti-European platform and have grown due to a number of factors, a) conservatives shifting to the centre (e.g. expanding childcare for working mothers), b) the aftermath of the migration crisis and c) social anomie and weakness of established parties in East Germany. Alice Weidel's personal circumstances are extremely atypical for the party and their gender politics is spearheaded by a truly vile, arch-reactionary individual named Beatrix von Storch who stands for a return to the past in every which way. Their strongest regional groupings (esp Thuringia) are under official observation for their neo-nazi leanings.

On the whole the trans issue is still pretty low key in Germany as much of the public is not yet aware of the planned Self-ID law. There's great public animus against gender-inclusive language yes but that mostly relates to default male nouns being replaced by often more awkward inclusive versions.

@PorcelinaV

The Communist Party is gender critical.

The Socialist Worker Party is a weird Trotskyist group who have generally caused more harm than good to any left-wing movement, it is famous for it.

New and confused, for sure.

I don't think they've swallowed neoliberal individualism though. They've swallowed a kind of feelings based subjectivity, which seems at first glance as individual, but it never manifests that way. It always has to manifest within quite demanding categories.

Real individuals are swallowed up in the group identity. You aren't really black if you didn't vote for Biden, people like Glen Lowry can be called race traitors because they don't toe the line on race is the US (an idea that has been defended here on FWR within the last month, if I recall correctly,) Douglas Murray is "straight acting" because he's a conservative, you need to make a land acknowledgement in Canada at a public event even, or else you must be a bigot, though many First Nations people think it is stupid and annoying, etc.

Whatever institutional structures are in place, the elite will adapt to them to acquire power and money, so of course these new categories are being exploited that way. One of the ways the left seems to be particularly naive is in thinking that left originating institutions are going to be better at resisting that than conservative institutions.