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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS animation to support LGBTQIA+ training

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EffinHell · 30/06/2023 13:36

Name changed for this.

Yesterday NHS launched new e-learning to help support LGBTQIA+.

I have no idea what the actual training looks like but this is the video on YouTube to help support the training and is probably part of the training. The video defines each part of LGBTQIA+.

I'm not going to say anything else because the video speaks for itself.

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Sunnydays41 · 30/06/2023 18:24

Sunnydays41 · 30/06/2023 18:18

I had to look up that alphabet soup.... 2 is apparently two-spirited, for anyone unaware... People who are simultaneously made up of both male and female spirits 🤨

Are spirits different to genders?

And what are their pronouns? Shehe/Herhis?

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 30/06/2023 18:27

2 is apparently two-spirited, for anyone unaware... People who are simultaneously made up of both male and female spirits 🤨

Are spirits different to genders?

That's a Native American/First nations thing - which, like the use of intersex, offends most of the people it's trying to co-opt [1]. Probably why it got dropped fairly quickly - people pointing out that it was cultural approriation, whitesplaining, and a sign of not being able to tell indigenous groups apart rather undermined their self-identifcation as The Good People.

[1] It's really nothing like the Western concept of trans, and it was only a thing in a small number of Plains tribes.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 30/06/2023 18:31

(As an aside, the tribes with a 2-spirit concept tend to be the ones that historically also had the worst treatment of women. That's where it has most common ground with TRAs - it's deeply sexist.)

FemaleAndLearning · 30/06/2023 18:45

It was awful.

TeenLifeMum · 30/06/2023 18:48

@SierraSapphire they want us to use women and people with wombs. I think that distracts from the hugely important message.

I also had to explain numerous times why I don’t want a coil fitted despite heavy periods causing low iron… I’m a victim of rape and while it doesn’t impact me much these days, I cannot have a coil fitted. The thought makes me freeze.

sending very unmumsnetty flowers 💐

SierraSapphire · 30/06/2023 18:52

Thanks MrsOvertonsWindow - I don't think the insensitivity would be standing out to me so much if there wasn't such a disproportionate effort to appease such a small group of people compared to the many many more women who are experiencing re-traumatisation repeatedly with no posters and videos made about our needs.

SierraSapphire · 30/06/2023 18:56

Flowers to you too TeenLifeMum. I'm not sure whether there's much understanding about the fight or flight response as opposed to it just being a bit uncomfortable. To be fair services have mostly been good about making sure I have female staff, but having to say it over and over again each time is tiring.

EffinHell · 30/06/2023 19:35

ditalini · 30/06/2023 16:47

All hail the hypnotoad.

That was a very odd video to sit through with the caaaaaaaalm voice saying "important" and "must" and other imperatives a lot. And the soooooooothing music, and the nodding heads.

Am I reprogrammed now?

That's the point, isn't it? You have to comply because we our truths.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/06/2023 19:45

SierraSapphire · 30/06/2023 18:52

Thanks MrsOvertonsWindow - I don't think the insensitivity would be standing out to me so much if there wasn't such a disproportionate effort to appease such a small group of people compared to the many many more women who are experiencing re-traumatisation repeatedly with no posters and videos made about our needs.

It's stark how little women's feelings/ experiences matter in all this isn't it?

Ourladycheesusedatum · 30/06/2023 19:45

Sunnydays41 · 30/06/2023 18:18

I had to look up that alphabet soup.... 2 is apparently two-spirited, for anyone unaware... People who are simultaneously made up of both male and female spirits 🤨

Are spirits different to genders?

Oh yeah the old two spirit, appropriation from first nations.
Hardly mentioned any more, cant think why not!

RedDeerRunning · 30/06/2023 20:03

Our taxes paid for this.

Mixedberrygenderfluidmuffin · 01/07/2023 09:26

The NHS is on its knees, but can somehow fund a cartoon to tell us that some me are women.
The government needs to enforce some austerity measures and cut all this batshittery from all publicly funded services.

FrancescaContini · 01/07/2023 09:34

I only got as far as the definition of “lesbian” (do NHS staff really not already know what it means?) and stopped watching. I am not a lesbian but I find their definition pretty offensive.

Why does the NHS waste time and resources on this embarrassing, offensive bollox??

Do they make their staff sit through similar Play School-esque patronising videos about people of various faiths, people of varying socioeconomic backgrounds, people with disabilities? Can you imagine?!?!

JacquelinePot · 01/07/2023 09:39

I'm going to risk being accused of hyperbole, here, but what the fucking fuck is this moral outrage being peddled by the NH fucking S at our financialand social cost?!

How fucking dare they?!

What's the procedure for complaining?

FrancescaContini · 01/07/2023 09:40

Someone, please, make a parody of this. It’s pretty much a parody of itself already.

“This is Kath. She lives in a high rise block on the outskirts of Manchester. She has four children by four different fathers and claims universal care. She is unable to work due to suffering from depression. Kath is a member of the social underclass.” Last two words written in colourful caps, comic sans, natch. Pretty colours and soothing voice.

FrancescaContini · 01/07/2023 09:41

*credit

JacquelinePot · 01/07/2023 09:45
Arrested Development Flirt GIF

I just checked the yt comments, and there's a lovely blank space, just crying out for contributions...

borntobequiet · 01/07/2023 09:50

I’ve emailed Steve Barclay about this. No fan of his, but I doubt he’d be happy to know this is how NHS money is being spent.

FrancescaContini · 01/07/2023 10:27

JacquelinePot · 01/07/2023 09:45

I just checked the yt comments, and there's a lovely blank space, just crying out for contributions...

I’m wondering if consultant neurosurgeons and the like have to sit through such cartoons. No pun intended, but their brains must explode at the sheer inanity of it.

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