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Here are 6 reasons why we need a truly queer environmental movement

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IwantToRetire · 29/06/2023 17:37

LGBTQIA+ people are among the most impacted by the climate crisis

Queerness offers a much-needed fresh perspective.

Being a queer environmental movement means standing alongside feminism, and any efforts to dismantle the patriarchy and redefine these roles.

“Queer ecology” is about seeing with new eyes, challenging the biases we bring to nature and redefining what we see as “natural”.

Governments, corporate and economic globalisation, science and technology – are all shaped by the cultural norms of the white, wealthy, western, non-disabled, male, cisgender and heterosexual.

Many queer people have forged strong connections with our own communities and networks. We have the experience of mobilising people as we fight for justice, standing in solidarity with others.

https://friendsoftheearth.uk/system-change/six-reasons-why-im-calling-queer-climate-movement

Just in case you thought queer politics cant have permeated every part of society, this shows that queerness is seen as making you superior, whilst at the same time saying you are the most marginalised.

NB - the quotes above are my extracts, not the full in depth analysis of the article!!

Six reasons why I'm calling for a queer climate movement | Friends of the Earth

Lewis Carr (he/they), a Campaigner at Friends of the Earth, reminds us that creating a fairer and greener world for everyone needs to include everyone, including the LGBTQIA+ community, and that doing so could help unlock the change we all so desperate...

https://friendsoftheearth.uk/system-change/six-reasons-why-im-calling-queer-climate-movement

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Qbish · 30/06/2023 17:49

Hepwo · 30/06/2023 17:44

Not men. That's how I would describe them, not men.

Indeed. Someone should start a forum called NotMensNet

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 30/06/2023 20:47

I wonder how many lesbians who have fancied straight women go around bemoaning how bigoted those women are who didn't welcome their advances, and making threats to force them to suck their female vulvas and worse?

I wonder how many straight women have been told they must accept the possibility of lesbian sex, must learn to like lesbian sex, told that saying they are only interested in men is a genital fetish, excluded from groups and communities because they just don't fancy women, etc?

I'd wager the answer to both is few to none.

suggestionsplease1 · 30/06/2023 23:17

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 30/06/2023 20:47

I wonder how many lesbians who have fancied straight women go around bemoaning how bigoted those women are who didn't welcome their advances, and making threats to force them to suck their female vulvas and worse?

I wonder how many straight women have been told they must accept the possibility of lesbian sex, must learn to like lesbian sex, told that saying they are only interested in men is a genital fetish, excluded from groups and communities because they just don't fancy women, etc?

I'd wager the answer to both is few to none.

I think you'd be surprised about what actually happens amongst (some) gay women.

I have been on the receiving end of unwelcome advances several times, and normally this is fine, I can knock people back politely no bother, all good, and all understood.

On a couple of occasions it has not been fine. On one night a group of us continued the evening at a house party, one woman sitting next to me threw her legs over mine, head on my shoulder, mouth on my neck, coming on to me..I'm not interested, so I get up and I move away to another room. Should have been fine but there is only one way back for 4 of us that night, in the car of the sober person, and so I get verbally abused by her for the duration of the drive because I did not respond to her advances.

Another occasion, another drunk woman, (yes, these are both non trans lesbians) tells me she can't get home, I say fine, I have a spare downstairs room she can crash in. Get home, I get sheets for her bed, she helps me make the bed for her, and then she follows me upstairs to my bed anyway and gets in whilst I am lying there and wraps her arms around me as I curl away in the other direction.

These were both people I knew and liked before and that made it even more awkward. I wondered if I had given out misleading signs...but you know what, I'm pretty forthright, if I was in that position on those occasions, how many more lesbians have been in similar situations with other (yes, non-trans) lesbians?

It's not right to express concerns as if it is simply a question of lesbians being at risk of trans lesbians. Every individual is potentially at risk from every other individual. And so what is right is strengthening communication, understanding and education on consent and sexual choices and respect for those individual sexual choices across the board.

I should say I have also had an advance from a trans woman; on that occasion it was very formal, stilted, direct, asking me if I would be interested in accompanying her to a hobby we were both interested in, and making it it clear that she was interested in me romantically. I replied that I very much enjoyed her company as a friend (I continue to do so) but that I did not have an interest in her in a romantic sense. And that was the end of it. No bother whatsoever after. Honestly that was much easier to handle than the other two occasions.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 01/07/2023 15:43

suggestionsplease1 · 30/06/2023 23:17

I think you'd be surprised about what actually happens amongst (some) gay women.

I have been on the receiving end of unwelcome advances several times, and normally this is fine, I can knock people back politely no bother, all good, and all understood.

On a couple of occasions it has not been fine. On one night a group of us continued the evening at a house party, one woman sitting next to me threw her legs over mine, head on my shoulder, mouth on my neck, coming on to me..I'm not interested, so I get up and I move away to another room. Should have been fine but there is only one way back for 4 of us that night, in the car of the sober person, and so I get verbally abused by her for the duration of the drive because I did not respond to her advances.

Another occasion, another drunk woman, (yes, these are both non trans lesbians) tells me she can't get home, I say fine, I have a spare downstairs room she can crash in. Get home, I get sheets for her bed, she helps me make the bed for her, and then she follows me upstairs to my bed anyway and gets in whilst I am lying there and wraps her arms around me as I curl away in the other direction.

These were both people I knew and liked before and that made it even more awkward. I wondered if I had given out misleading signs...but you know what, I'm pretty forthright, if I was in that position on those occasions, how many more lesbians have been in similar situations with other (yes, non-trans) lesbians?

It's not right to express concerns as if it is simply a question of lesbians being at risk of trans lesbians. Every individual is potentially at risk from every other individual. And so what is right is strengthening communication, understanding and education on consent and sexual choices and respect for those individual sexual choices across the board.

I should say I have also had an advance from a trans woman; on that occasion it was very formal, stilted, direct, asking me if I would be interested in accompanying her to a hobby we were both interested in, and making it it clear that she was interested in me romantically. I replied that I very much enjoyed her company as a friend (I continue to do so) but that I did not have an interest in her in a romantic sense. And that was the end of it. No bother whatsoever after. Honestly that was much easier to handle than the other two occasions.

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Hepwo · 01/07/2023 16:37

Just stop oil have brought Pride in London to a standstill by sitting in the road in front of a Coca Cola lorry!

Funny!

Police swooped in to arrest them.

For a change!

Now we know why that article was updated.

MargotBamborough · 01/07/2023 16:50

The people most impacted by the climate crisis are children, and people living in countries most at risk of becoming uninhabitable due to rising sea levels and soaring temperatures.

Signalbox · 01/07/2023 16:53

Hepwo · 01/07/2023 16:37

Just stop oil have brought Pride in London to a standstill by sitting in the road in front of a Coca Cola lorry!

Funny!

Police swooped in to arrest them.

For a change!

Now we know why that article was updated.

So Pride get to hold an event without counter protests disrupting the event for more than a few minutes but the likes of KJK or WPUK or the AHF film people have their events disrupted and the police do nothing. Why does this not surprise me.

MavisMcMinty · 01/07/2023 21:23

They announced on Twitter a couple of days ago they’d be “taking action”, which may explain why the police were ready for them.

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