Did anyone see the ITV News piece about of water bills on customers?

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https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1674332639921045505

Yes this is the feminism board. Paul Embery clipped it but I wonder if anyone saw it in full? He says the piece was about the impact of soaring water bills on an everyday mother. The voiceover calls the person a customer but the customer calls themself a mum. On the Twitter thread someone points out that the customer works for the TUC and is an economist who has been published in the Guardian. I think it’s fair to say the customer is neither a mother nor an ‘everyday’ one.

Well it's pretty clear he doesn't do laundry for children on any regular basis given his complete lack of grasp of the basics (children produce more laundry than can be fitted into a washing up bowl; if you're doing that little laundry in each load you're definitely wasting water plus your kids will never have clean clothes unless the washing machine is constantly on).

I expect the hard work of actual child care is beyond people who spend time posting selfies using their children as validation props.

Who took this clearly-staged photo, given that both this person’s arms are holding the child, so it’s clearly not a selfie?

Seems to me it's the planned next step after the 'just a mum like me' TV appearance.

If it's such a lovely, healthy and normal thing, where are all the dads (not taking medication of any kind other the one to generate these secretions) lactating and feeding their babies?

This is about supporting this male person's belief in being a woman. Using a child. Sucking on an intimate bit of anatomy. While everyone's required to say this is so lovely and progressive and nice. Fgs in 2023 no one can hear you scream.

The last time does came up, a man had claimed that he had managed to feed his child for six weeks.

And was quite upfront about please don't judge me, because indeed, it was more exciting than anything a partner 'could ever do to you.'

He identified as a woman, at did the doctor helping him do it.

This is all about pushing the boundaries of what is considered normal or acceptable; and in doing so eroding healthy and natural boundaries.
As people have suggested; this is nothing bu an activist stunt.

A breastfeeding woman would not pull her t-shirt down in such a way. That would be very uncomfortable. Who. or where, is this child's mother, and should social services be involved?

Domperidone has been banned in the U.S, but apparently some women, as well as TW, procure it from Canada.

In Britain it is only available with prescription, but i cannot imagine a GP prescribing it to a male for the purpose of 'breasfeeding'.

https://lascapigliata.com/2018/03/26/analysis-of-study-of-induced-lactation-in-trans-identified-man/

I find the image of this man breastfeeding a baby sickening!

Taken from a blog post by La Scapagliata ( based on her analysis of the male bresfeeding study):

"Very well put Tricia. The study is exercise in male narcissim, delusion and total breakdown of safeguarding mechanisms for both the mother and the child. There’s a sinister undercurrent to transactivism that is using children for validation and sexual gratification of some trans-identified men, and even though paedophiles try to legalise their crimes every decade or so, it never stops being absolutely urgent to stop them. Case in point: https://www.thestranger.com/queer-issue-2017/2017/06/21/25225867/my-first-time-breastfeeding-my-daughter
It’s not an accident the fathers of post-modernism, Foucault and Derrida, and the fathers of transgenderism, Money, Kinsey, Benjamin, were all paedophile activists/apologists, or that WPATH is a rebranded Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association (HBIGDA), or that this is being disseminated through queer theory, which is a brain child of post-modernism. But so many people aren’t aware of it, because the connections are not advertised and passive-aggressive male narratives are used to smear mothers and emotionally blackmail and gaslight general population and legislators, into, ultimately what, time will tell.
I believe any attempt at legislating child abuse will ultimately fail. The sociaty has shown firm distaste for it and it won’t be allowed. But even severely relaxed, or even holes in child safeguarding mechanisms ultimately benefit paedophile rings, who are, as we know, extremely well organised and often rooted in institutions which involve men with lots of resources in positions of power.
I am now carefully watching all developments that insinuate children 1) have a sexual orientation=sexual attraction=are sexual beings in adult sense, 2) are capable of consent regarding touching of their genitals (which puts onus on the child instead on adults to know what is and isn’t appropriate, and it completely compromises childcare of the most vulnerable infants and small children), 3) aim to alienate and separate children from their parents and 4) are normalising detailed discussions about a child’s genitals, bodies and sexual function. All three feature heavily in trans activism, from telling pre-pubescent “drag queens” that if their parents won’t allow them to be sexualised “they need new patents” to “so brave” news articles about “openly gay 3 year olds” that suggest the toddler is advertising their sexuality, most recent sinister position that parents need “infant’s consent” to change their nappies, to the tragic case dissected in the media via programme “I Am Jazz”.

I'm documenting all the instances I come across if men claiming to be Mothers on this thread, happy for others to add as and when:

Trans Widows are the only mothers of our children. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4752371-trans-widows-are-the-only-mothers-of-our-children

This is very slightly OT (my post isn't about the rights or wrongs of a man 'breastfeeding' a baby, I think that's pretty well covered here!) but I volunteer at an independent charity as a BF peer supporter. We are none of us medically trained and one of our basic tenets is that we never 'give advice', we make available information and treat our female clients as intelligent women who will then be able to make a more informed decision about their bodies and their babies.

We used to work under a private MW who was very experienced in infant feeding and she would regularly suggest that clients ask for a domperidone prescription from their GP. She made it clear that this was a drug used off-license as a galactagogue but that it was 'safe' for use. As non-medical peer supporters, we would not do this (the MW no longer works with our group) but I'm now a bit concerned, seeing the studies coming out of North America. However, I think that its use by a WOMAN, who is, after all, working with her biology rather than against it, for a short period of time in order to induce lactation, is extremely different to a MAN using it indefinitely to sustain milk production, alongside a whole raft of artificial hormones and other medications. I just wanted to say that I think its careful and considered, and medically-supervised use by a woman, is still very much practiced in the UK and that this is a very different scenario from a man using it and working against his biology to 'lactate'.

Dont know if I say the name of at least two drs who probably will
Adrian harrop and Helen webberley.

Might now be deleted.

At some point, it will dawn on Stella Creasey that the conditions are being set up for someone to turn around to her and say: "you don't need any reasonable adjustments made for you because you are a nursing mother. Your partner can breast-feed your babies for you instead."

I understand women who have adopted babies or had babies by surrogate are also using domperidone to stimulate lactation ( in the U.S), even though they have not been through a pregnancy and a birth.

This is the endgame I fear, to ravage sex based rights.

This is the question for Labour ‐ can men breastfeed a baby?

"99.9% of women who breastfeed are of course biological women, but there ate a very small number of...blah blah yada yada"

I just don't see why anyone would believe this bit of roleplaying from this person. I had two very very difficult starts to breastfeeding with each of my babies. I obviously had a female body in the right state for producing the necessary hormonal and physical responses, but had to work like a maniac to move through the stages of producing a supply whilst my babies were unable to feed in SCBU and then when trying to persuade them to latch and to feed. It was hard hard work, I was expressing or feeding pretty much constantly. At no point did I, nor my partner, nor any HCP we were dealing with, suggest that the baby's father give it a go. We supplemented with formula whilst we had to. Obviously.

From my own experiences of the dynamics of breastfeeding, I just don't believe these stories. It's make believe, pretending, fantasy behaviour and it is most certainly not child-centred in any way.

What it is, though, is wilful boundary pushing - to see how far society will actually take this shit.

But they can't.

Men's bodies cannot generate enough milk, even on medication, to feed a baby. What they can do is have a bit of an experience with a baby.

It will be argued it's all about bonding etc, but I suspect it's a lot nicer for the male person involved than any other real consideration. In an awful lot of these MRA situations the elephant cantering around that we are not supposed to look at, never mind comment on, is what does 'nice' involve in the agendas of all male people doing these things, from peeing in women's toilets to feeding a baby. And to what extent is it ok to use non consenting women and children as props for their 'nice'.

And with a breast fed baby, a male parent having their nice experience interferes with the mother's time and feeding which will mess up her milk supply and threaten feeding happening productively at all.

If I'd said to you 10 years ago...7 even...5 years...that today elites would allow men into women's sport, their safe spaces, obscure trans IDs of kids from their parents, use words like non-men and cervix haver...and now try and pull off man as female woman mum...you would have bet your house this was impossible.

Well, what are we talking about here?...

I cannot bear to read the article again but there is an account of one of these TW "feeding" their baby and they are very transparent about how "erotic" the feeling was - I'm surprised the TRA camp let it go out to be honest, it did not reflect well on them at ALL. I'm sure someone here remembers it and can link it.
There was a lot of sexual imagery and talk of stimulation and euphoria.

Put it this way, it was clearly written by someone other than a real nursing mother.