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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour's candidate for Uxbridge election

57 replies

Imnobody4 · 24/06/2023 16:09

https://twitter.com/MarkHazard2020/status/1668600384275849216?t=uXmmS3st--x0AXDfLBs1MQ&s=19

Team Starmer has had Danny Beales, Labour's candidate in the #UxbridgeByElection and an enthusiastic Trans Rights Activist delete Tweets like the one in which he proudly announces spending £40,000 on a trans zebra crossing.

They know this ideology's an electoral liability.

Let's hope someone has kept copies other Labour politicians ready for the General election and the rewriting of history. Jess Philips is already doing it.

https://twitter.com/MarkHazard2020/status/1668600384275849216?s=19&t=uXmmS3st--x0AXDfLBs1MQ

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GCAcademic · 24/06/2023 16:28

They know it’s an electoral liability but are happily standing TRA candidates and telling them to keep a lid on it. What do we imagine is going to happen once those candidates are actually elected?

Abhannmor · 24/06/2023 16:28

Is KJK intending to run against Starmer still ?

AgathaSpencerGregson · 24/06/2023 16:31

Abhannmor · 24/06/2023 16:28

Is KJK intending to run against Starmer still ?

Oh please let this happen. He is such a pompous self-regarding fartarse and she will make him look so stupid. It will be an absolute scream.

Whatwouldscullydo · 24/06/2023 16:33

Fuck anyone with a disability requiring an assistance dog hey..who cares if they don't recognise the crossing as a crossing...

We've all seen the footage of the police horses refusing to walk over the rainbow Crossing.

They are supposed to serve ALL their community arent they?

IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 16:49

Are they cloning them?

Beales is on the.....? I want to say.....right?

Labour's candidate for Uxbridge  election
Labour's candidate for Uxbridge  election
RealityFan · 24/06/2023 17:18

Are we still able to say we hate beardy ginger nuts? Lol.

SunnyEgg · 24/06/2023 17:22

AgathaSpencerGregson · 24/06/2023 16:31

Oh please let this happen. He is such a pompous self-regarding fartarse and she will make him look so stupid. It will be an absolute scream.

😂

OldGardinia · 24/06/2023 17:27

Forty grand on a "trans" zebra crossing? What was the company paid to do that... and was it owned by a mate? Enquiring minds want to know.

MmePoppySeedDefage · 24/06/2023 17:33

Well then, there is a very interesting Reverse Ferret in this Times article from last week, in which he specifically defines a woman as an adult human female:

Danny Beales: I’m fighting for Boris’s seat in Uxbridge

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d256119e-105e-11ee-a92d-cf7c831c99b5?shareToken=bcd7af5ad462c67309e6edadc7fb145ff_

Still won't believe Labour, mind, until they treat Rosie Duffield properly.

TheBiologyStupid · 24/06/2023 17:36

He wasted 40k on a virtue-signalling crossing that is a hazard for the partially sighted? Idiot!

IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 17:44

I live with a beard ginger nut! So I can't hate them 😃

From the article, he seems very nice, very kind.

RealityFan · 24/06/2023 17:54

IcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2023 17:44

I live with a beard ginger nut! So I can't hate them 😃

From the article, he seems very nice, very kind.

And I've got a (secret) crush on Paul Embery, lol.

FigRollsAlly · 24/06/2023 18:10

MmePoppySeedDefage · 24/06/2023 17:33

Well then, there is a very interesting Reverse Ferret in this Times article from last week, in which he specifically defines a woman as an adult human female:

Danny Beales: I’m fighting for Boris’s seat in Uxbridge

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d256119e-105e-11ee-a92d-cf7c831c99b5?shareToken=bcd7af5ad462c67309e6edadc7fb145ff_

Still won't believe Labour, mind, until they treat Rosie Duffield properly.

He also says there isn’t a conflict between women’s rights and trans rights so how far this is a reverse ferret is unclear.

FigRollsAlly · 24/06/2023 18:14

To be fair, reading it again, he says women’s and trans rights aren’t mutually exclusive which is maybe a bit less disingenuous than saying there’s no conflict.

RealityFan · 24/06/2023 18:40

I'm afraid this is as good as it's gonna get. Make of that what you will.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/06/2023 18:42

There's no clash between trans rights and women's rights if your definition of "woman" includes trans identifying males.

Similarly if your definition of "female" includes trans women you can say "women are adult human females" then turn round and open every single woman's prptection up to males without a single twitch in your conscience.

But it's very handy for politicians not to bother clarifying that.

For this reason I don't assume anything about their meaning when people say woman now unless they explicitly clarify whether they mean by body sex or by gendered mentality.

Hagosaurus · 24/06/2023 19:02

imnobody4, what’s Jess Phillips done?

SunnyEgg · 24/06/2023 19:07

the culture wars haven’t yet come up on the campaign trail. “I haven’t been asked about trans issues on the doorstep.

This is a giveaway anyone who goes on about culture wars and trans issues not coming up is firmly Labour through and through

I don’t believe women’s rights and trans rights are mutually exclusive

What does this mean in practise? No idea he doesn’t extrapolate

RealityFan · 24/06/2023 19:17

He won't talk about it. And likely the MSM won't either. Uxbridge will be solely about Boris and the cost of living crisis/NHS.

Trans Qs will be batted away.

OldGardinia · 24/06/2023 19:22

"Trans Rights" presumably mean "no discrimination against trans people". And as MtF trans people seem to think being kept out of the women's toilets is discrimination then yeah - they conflict.

Also, nobody is born "trans". It's not an arbitrary characteristic like skin colour or (we presume) sexual orientation. No man wakes up in the morning to find God has covered his face in heavy make-up. It's a choice, it's a behaviour. Why can't I have an opinion on that?

FedgeHund · 24/06/2023 19:22

Starmer will them say that Uxbridge voted for Gender identity and self ID, he will continue this strategy into the GE.

The conservative party are terrible. The left are worse.

Imnobody4 · 24/06/2023 19:36

Hagosaurus · 24/06/2023 19:02

imnobody4, what’s Jess Phillips done?

I helped write the document that demanded changes in self ID. I literally was part of the group of MPs who wanted change. Spousal veto for example is awful
6:17 PM · Jan 5, 2020

https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1213887262414581761?s=20

She was an active participant in the Miller calls for GRA reform. She's only recently spoken about womens single sex spaces in the recent debate.

https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1213887262414581761

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Transparent2 · 24/06/2023 19:42

Perhaps she’s woken up?

Imnobody4 · 24/06/2023 19:44

Maybe, but I've not seen any evidence of her thought process.

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SunnyEgg · 24/06/2023 19:45

I can’t believe the nonsense words these people come out with

Women’s right clash with TRAs wants so he’d have to be clear on what his poxy statement actually means