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Labour's candidate for Uxbridge election

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Imnobody4 · 24/06/2023 16:09

https://twitter.com/MarkHazard2020/status/1668600384275849216?t=uXmmS3st--x0AXDfLBs1MQ&s=19

Team Starmer has had Danny Beales, Labour's candidate in the #UxbridgeByElection and an enthusiastic Trans Rights Activist delete Tweets like the one in which he proudly announces spending £40,000 on a trans zebra crossing.

They know this ideology's an electoral liability.

Let's hope someone has kept copies other Labour politicians ready for the General election and the rewriting of history. Jess Philips is already doing it.

https://twitter.com/MarkHazard2020/status/1668600384275849216?s=19&t=uXmmS3st--x0AXDfLBs1MQ

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elderflowerandpomelo · 25/07/2023 08:47

Where did you get the idea that London air is ok against WHO standards?? Those standards are incredibly ambitious and pretty much nowhere in London even approached them.

the ULEZ lies were terrible… it was a dirty election…

RebelliousCow · 25/07/2023 08:51

Tanith · 25/06/2023 16:26

It looked to me as though Jess had her wake up moment during the leadership election. It was around then that someone patiently explained to her what the spousal veto actually meant. She withdrew shortly afterwards.
I think she realised she couldn’t stand until she’d done some re-evaluation and hard thinking.

As for Starmer, he’s made his party electable again and he got rid of Johnson.
He knows about the gender id trap the Conservatives have set. I’m sure he knows exactly how he’ll deal with it if they’re stupid enough to spring it during the election.

I think you are very optimistic about Staremer. He has never shown the slightest grasp of the issue - and to think he could even begin to outsmart people like Kemi Badenoch, and others, who actually know their stuff, is rather fanatastical.

C8H10N4O2 · 25/07/2023 08:59

elderflowerandpomelo · 25/07/2023 08:47

Where did you get the idea that London air is ok against WHO standards?? Those standards are incredibly ambitious and pretty much nowhere in London even approached them.

the ULEZ lies were terrible… it was a dirty election…

They regularly record as "good" against WHO standards.

Outer London is a different world from inner London. Lower population density, much shittier transport options and completely different air quality levels. There is farmland in this constituency, as there is in most of the outer London boroughs.

That constituency used to be one of my regular canvassing areas because it was always deemed "winnable".

Much as middle class lefties are longing to present it as "thick voters who don't know what is good for them" and "thick voters who are duped by lies" that is not what was happening on the doorstep - the policy will cause real hardship in the very demographic Labour need to win back and there is sod all transitional support (even if you can get a replacement vehicle with current wait lists). Add on the voters who don't even register because they don't trust either party enough to care and it was always going to be a knife edge locally. I thought it would just tip into Labour but wasn't surprised when it didn't.

elderflowerandpomelo · 26/07/2023 23:22

It’s all so incredibly badly presented, it’s deeply confusing.

This is the most up to date info I can find abt Hillingdon. Note that NONE of the
sites coloured green get anywhere near the WHO max of 10ug… they merely meet other much more lax standards…

Im sure there are fields where AQ is ok, and it is def the case that it’s getting better. But to say it meets WHO limits is sadly just wrong. (NB WHO did make them WAY stricter a few years back - and when I did monitoring a few years back even the middle of Hampstead Heath was massively over that limit!)

https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/hillingdon_air_quality_for_public_health_professionals.pdf

C8H10N4O2 · 27/07/2023 11:17

elderflowerandpomelo · 26/07/2023 23:22

It’s all so incredibly badly presented, it’s deeply confusing.

This is the most up to date info I can find abt Hillingdon. Note that NONE of the
sites coloured green get anywhere near the WHO max of 10ug… they merely meet other much more lax standards…

Im sure there are fields where AQ is ok, and it is def the case that it’s getting better. But to say it meets WHO limits is sadly just wrong. (NB WHO did make them WAY stricter a few years back - and when I did monitoring a few years back even the middle of Hampstead Heath was massively over that limit!)

There are multiple sites reporting the data - its hardly secret, its open source data captured by hundreds of devices across this and other countries.

Try Breezometer or IQair as just a couple of sites which capture and visualise this data. However there are many out there if you prefer to find your own. The met office also reports on this.

Some of the data in that report is 10 years or more old, from when NO2 was the primary pollutant of concern and we were all being badgered to buy diesels as being cleaner, less polluting and more fuel efficient. The same cars which less than ten years later are now the spawn of evil. The area which has always been the focus of main concern is Heathrow - even that comes out green on most days.

Its worth noting that the same organisation who published this report are taking the Mayor to court to challenge the timeline, the method of roll out and implementation, partly on the grounds that the impact isn't justified.

If you have the money and inclination to change your car every three years or so then you will be fine. Lucky old you.
If you are lower income and drive older cars you face the double whammy that 10+ year old cars in your budget are likely to be diesels with precious few petrol models available and hiked in price.

Davros · 29/07/2023 15:23

As I said upthread, Danny Beales is one of my local councillors, sadly we will be getting him back. One of our local papers, which is a hard hitting and investigative lefty organ, printed the attached letter which I enjoyed. The Camden New Journal partly covers Keir Starmer's constituency and, I suspect, is avidly read by local politicians

Labour's candidate for Uxbridge  election
Grammarnut · 29/07/2023 20:40

He still lost - unsurprising.

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