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Police withdraw stalking protection order application against Caroline Farrow

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 23/06/2023 08:45

Or rather their barrister does. The case somehow got as far as court without the police giving Caroline's representations to the barrister. Once he read them he declined to proceeed.

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1671854328485691392?

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1672117973862039552?

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Felix125 · 01/08/2023 17:42

DrLouiseJMoody
Interesting, Felix, because elsewhere, you state you're mid-twenties.

Where have i said that....?

lechiffre55 · 01/08/2023 17:43

Careful you don't ask a question you don't want to hear the answer to.

Felix125 · 01/08/2023 17:47

Dumbo12

I can have an opinion on things - so long as I don't infuriate the investigation.
Other posters, who are serving police officers, make comments on here too.

But since you don't think I am a police officer - it won't matter.

Dumbo12 · 01/08/2023 17:55

I wonder how one infuriates an investigation? I also do not appreciate being told what I believe, with no evidence to back up the assertion.

Felix125 · 01/08/2023 17:57

Dumbo12
So you do believe I am a police officer...?

Infuriate an investigation. Means to impeded it or have an impact on it.

Needmoresleep · 01/08/2023 17:58

Infuriate...good word.

FeIix125 · 01/08/2023 18:04

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DrLouiseJMoody · 01/08/2023 18:05

Perhaps there's another 27 / 28 year old (given the age of the post) droning on on police reddits with your username who sounds like, and has a remarkably similar history, to Felix.

Police withdraw stalking protection order application against Caroline Farrow
FeIix125 · 01/08/2023 18:05

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I don't think that's quite the big reveal you think it is.

Felix125 · 01/08/2023 18:15

DrLouiseJMoody

That's not me.
Is it a different forum?

The two other posts either side of your last one are not me either.

LilyMumsnet · 01/08/2023 18:20

Hi all

To confirm, those posts did not come from Felix125. It was a troll whom changed the L to a capital I, which is why they were able to claim the username. We have banned them now.

Felix125 · 01/08/2023 18:30

DrLouiseJMoody

Just to confirm - that post is someone else on a different forum who has used the same user name. Its not me at all. I am not a Biomed graduate and have never wanted to be in the RAF. And I am not mid twenties (unfortunately)

'Felix' is a popular name - on here I think several of them had been used before I found '125' worked.

Confirmedwitch · 01/08/2023 18:47

The deletions were inevitable but glad a post containing good wishes towards a 14 year old boy who was sexually abused is still here.

This caught my eye from the Pink News article.

“(Hayden) also alleges that the anti-LGBTQ+ activist described her online as a “paedophile” and accused her of stalking her daughter.” 🤔

lechiffre55 · 01/08/2023 18:51

So this also isn't you on the police recruitment forum wanting advice on joining the police?
https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/kl34u8/mdp_career_paths/

Reddit - Dive into anything

https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/kl34u8/mdp_career_paths

Felix125 · 01/08/2023 18:56

No. Not at all.

lechiffre55 · 01/08/2023 19:44

Can you see how from another person's point of view it sort of looks like it might be you? Desperate to join the police, same username.

I find the way you communicate on MN strange. If I was police officer I'd want to make the process of policing more transparent to the users of Mumsnet. The police get a lot of stick, some of it justified but definitely not all, but it must be a very difficult job. The very context of being a police officer must mean coming into contact with some very unpleasant people, lots of conflict, even the chance of physical violence on a daily basis. The powers of arrest of the police are there because of the job. The legal use of violence can be necessary in some cases to do the job. I can only imagine how tough and stressful a job it can be when things could kick off at the most unexpected of times.

Given how hard the job is, if I was a police officer I'd want people to know that despite the sensational stories in the press we're not all bad. To do that I'd try and explain the process, open it up a little so people can see how it works, and why it's necessary. Obviously I couldn't discuss live cases, but I could explain how things work generically, the challenges the police face, and how the police try to be fair to everyone under difficult circumstances.

But with you I get this wierd feeling when I read your posts. They always seem to revolve around arguing. I'm not sure what word to use but your motive/ethos always seems to be to go against the grain/GC women. Just one example the thread talking about KJK being asked by the police to attend a police voluntary interview, you were arguing why she should attend and talk to the police. The reality is any legal professional would always advise their client not to attend ( Dennis Noel Kavanaugh entered that thread and did ). It literally can only go badly for the person attending the interview. A police officer would know that.

It also seems you always take the anti GC side in any thread involving any GC person and the police. It sort of like you want to argue with GC posters on this board but never just do so directly, always using the police as a proxy to argue through. I'm curious if a TRA who comitted violence against a GC person and was recorded on camera was invited to a voluntary police interview if your advice to attend would be the same? "Sure how else are the police going to get your side of the story". CF facing a lengthy protracted drawn out investigation over several years, yep that's police in action. Nowhere do you ever address things like proportionality in police investigations. A man makes dozens of complaints about someone he doesn't like on twitter with a clear political motive driving his complaints, serious investigation time. At some point a rational human would just ignore them as nuisance callers. But you say the police have to investigate every one when in some areas zero burglaries get investigated.

If what you say about the police is true, then we live in such a dystopian society with such a shit police force that the whole lot should be sacked, and a new police force built from the ground up. I don't accept that the police are that bad. I agree there needs to be some serious reforms, but I can't accept that you represent the police as a whole, and I don't think that you do.

I've just figured something out while writing this. Where I was saying above I'd try to be open about what it's like to be a police officer, one of the things I'd do is explain how the rules I had to operate under sometimes forced me to deal with things in a way I didn't like, but I had no choice. I have to follow the rules. From you I don't ever get that at all, the rules always seem to be your friend, the rules and procedures always seem to support your argument. It feels like you like the rules.

SideWonder · 01/08/2023 21:34

LarkLane · 01/08/2023 15:26

Baggmo is just posting something that is in the public domain. It'll be a poor do if it's deleted.

And it has been. Some people are very sensitive.

SideWonder · 01/08/2023 21:38

The police should prosecute Hayden for a malicious report just based on that assumption. Even though he might have nothing to do with this current allegation.

ooooooo @FeIix125 have you just misgendered someone?

Out of the mouths of babes, and all that ....

LarkLane · 01/08/2023 21:57

SideWonder · 01/08/2023 21:34

And it has been. Some people are very sensitive.

It's now against the rules on this parenting forum to post a newpaper article about a person having committed, and been convicted of, a sexual offence against a minor?
A new low.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 01/08/2023 22:34

In a sea of oddness, the idea that the police don't know who made the complaint is particularly peculiar.

Separately, the thread discussion has made me wonder whether the concept of 'vexatious litigant' is something that applies in criminal as well as civil matters. After a bit of reading I think it does, but the wording around criminal proceedings orders is a little vague - they prohibit a VL from laying information before a justice of the peace or 'instituting proceedings', but it's not explicit whether complaining to the police is covered by that. It would be odd if it weren't, though.

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IcakethereforeIam · 01/08/2023 22:47

I don't remember the details but there was that young girl who was fined for her complaints about her former boyfriend (who later murdered her). Obviously, they can, or could, do something. Though I could see why they might be reluctant to.

Confirmedwitch · 01/08/2023 23:01

Is it acceptable to post this with no commentary? It’s been posted to a Twitter account.

A Twitter account called “Love Your Pockets has a fascinating pinned tweet from 14th June 2023 which has had 27.9k views.

I suppose Anthony Halliday is a common name around those parts and therefore in order not to get Mumsnet into legal trouble, posters should not speculate as to which Anthony Halliday this might be, in the event it’s an unfortunate coincidence.

Police withdraw stalking protection order application against Caroline Farrow
Angelwings77 · 01/08/2023 23:12

Count down to when bobble hatted Becki Babe threatens to sue MNHQ in 3 2 1

meowgender · 01/08/2023 23:18

One shouldn't openly speculate of course, but privately speculating, perhaps using the date that article was published, the name and age mentioned, the birth record search on FreeBMD, and company officer searches for names of interest on the Companies House website, plus also considering the last two digits of a certain Twitter handle, might be okay.