Musk says cis or cisgender is now considered a slur on Twitter

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twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841?s=46&t=r5kx3z5-8Bi2hSNZTB-1lA

About fecking time. Now make "sex" a category that can be subject to harassment

Such an essential word then.

That was about this once in five years comment.

The rules of harassment on Twitter are not managed by posters here. Ask Elon.

Oh the delicious irony!

the dictionary definition of the word “woman” isn’t offensive either

wanna take that up with the misogynist Adrian person who complained about it being on a billboard all those years ago?

Maybe Merlin needs to ask ChatGPT what a woman is....

lol the 'move' is the same as mumsnet did years ago.

you can't call someone cis on here. Well You can once, then and after being told not to describe someone as cis, if you persist the post is deleted.

but as you can see, you can still write cis, you can still discuss your opinion on cis.
the word is not banned.

You just cannot apply it to someone else who doesn't want it applying to them.
it's really that simple 🤷‍♀️

Great

Unfortunate for those who want to use it.

Great for women who find it a slur

Maybe you’ll end up suspended or whatever but great if the word goes down in use

I don’t think there are many more pro-women things to do that the 4th most visited website in the world protecting women from being forced into an anti-women ideology.

@MerlinsLostMarbles you don't think cis is offensive and you also think that cis has been used just for without causing a problem until recently.

Hate to break it to you, but I find the term hugely offensive and have since it first appeared on my radar some years ago (6? 7?) Gender is a sexist social construct and I don't share your belief in gender ideology. Calling me a 'cis woman' puts me into a subset of my own bloody sex which I don't accept exists. I am a woman. A transwoman is not a woman in the same way. I've been at the recieving end of misogyny more times than I can remember, since I was a little girl. I've gone through female puberty, the pain, mess and annoyance of menstruation, and then pregnancy, childbirth, lactation, gynae issues. I've had the indignity of smear tests and had my boobs crushed in the mammogram machine. I've worried about the risks of sexual assault, while knowing that I will likely be much weaker than my assailant. I've felt actual fear of the possibility of sexual assault. I have been sexually assaulted several times. I know that I am significantly physically weaker than virtually all the men I meet, and this has coloured how I behave since puberty.

Now, whatever hassle and strife a transwoman goes through, it's not those hassles. Those hassles are women's hassles.

WOMEN'S

We need and deserve a word to describe ourselves. We have a word. It doesn't need a prefix dragged across from chemistry.

I find cis offensive not because I hate transpeople (I know and like several) or don't think they exist, but because I really, really object to the colonisation of female culture and female reality by men who will never share or properly understand what it is to grow up female, to be a woman with all that history. Talking about misogyny, when I type woman I get this bloody icon: 👠 That's what women are reduced to? That's what we are? High heels that make our arses stick out, make us sway alluringly as we walk, bugger up our feet and backs and stop us running? I've never worn a sodding stiletto in my life, never mind a red one. See what I mean about sexist social constructs?

So, please, go away and have a think about what I've said.

<Breathes>

if you look at what the original tweet said, that Musk replied to, it is clear that if you persist in using an epithet in the direction of anyone who repeatedly asks you knot to, they are within their Twitter Rights to report and ask for the poster to be banned for a period of reflection.

That would go both ways: stop calling me cis. I'm a woman and i don't have a gender identity. If it happens repeatedly, according to what Musk said: i can ask for that poster to be stopped.

The same would go, i am assuming, if a trans woman were being repeatedly called a man or he: they could report the tweets and ask for the person to be banned for a period.

What you are failing to understand is the difference between actual free speech (the ability to criticise the government without repercussion) which is A Thing in the USA but not so much in other places (to a degree but not in the same way).
And things people are allowed to say in privately owned spaces, such as social media platforms.

you, and anyone else, can use cis(gender) any time you like. If you use it at me, on twitter, i will ask you not to.
if you do it again i will report it every single time referring to Musk's tweet and my request not to do it. Then we will see what happens.

I do think, as other pp have mentioned, that when people are shouting "literal violence! genocide!" upon being misgendered (and this is often a person in a suit with a beard who says they are a woman, or non-binary - it is not immediately visible) it is very very hypocritical to get your knickers in a knot about people not wanting to be called cis. If trans women want to be women they have to #BeKind.

Hi is correctly a trans Woman., fact. A woman is a woman, fact. What about the men identifying as babies... what do you call them? How does that impact what they can or can't legally do as an adult? After all, as a baby, your rights are very different from that of a fully grown adult male.

We are creating a never-ending pit of nonsense, with ramifications we have not stopped to think about. People have now started to identify as trans-species... Where will it end?

Well said. These experiences don't apply to make people.

Male not make, argh

There’s a thread on the BBC doing a new show on a male knowing what it’s like to be a girl (they don’t)

And Twitter clamping down on ‘cis’ which is good

Looks clearer who supports what

On the window of Oxfam shop yesterday.
Sisterhood, not CISterhood.

Didn't go in.

That's the sound of Oxfam backpedalling. Too little; too late.

it is a scientific term

It's really not.

Mine's selling a special range of Pride products...

It is a scientific term

Bah. It is used as a term of abuse now. Nobody used the word until transwomen decided they needed a different term for women who had been born women.

Mind you, if TWAW why don't they just call themselves WOMEN and be done with it? That's what I can never get my head around.

If we're all allegedly the same we should all be called the same thing.
Or so you'd think.

I took it to mean full on gender ideology

ie all could be ‘sisters’ male and female and if you don’t agree you’re not welcome

How on earth a male would have any idea of what it's like to be a girl. They have no idea. The best they can do is what it is like to be a man in dress up. Typical BBC pandering to the tiniest minority groups in order to be seen as all inclusive whilst ignoring the biggest group of people (women) who actually are killed, raped and abused daily (by men).

cis IS used as a slur. Hasn't been used for hundreds and hundreds of years and now men playing dress up decided that women (who they appear to be jealous of and hate) need to be called it because just calling us women isn't good enough for THEM. I wish they would just stop misgendering me - I am not CIS and never will be.

"it's mainly used to clarify if a person is trans or not"

Surely that's easy since a person that is trans uses trans as in trans man trans woman. Men and women don't use trans. See easy when it's pointed out.

Ah. Now that you mention it, your interpretation is probably the correct one. I wouldn't trust Oxfam to backpedal, now that I think about it.