Musk says cis or cisgender is now considered a slur on Twitter

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twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1671370284102819841?s=46&t=r5kx3z5-8Bi2hSNZTB-1lA

About fecking time. Now make "sex" a category that can be subject to harassment

It seems sus to be celebrating his move on here. There's no way its pro feminist.

Molecules. And as I am not a molecule I fail to see how it applies to me.

Transitioning gender became transgender, became trans, oh look chemistry uses trans and the opposite is cis, so lets use cis as opposite to transgender.

What? I find it’s usually the other way round - non religious people making nasty insults about religious people.

Well done, Elon Musk.

And that's a sentence I never thought I'd type.

"In English, the term cisgender was coined in 1994 in a Usenet newsgroup about transgender topics.[24] On that newsgroup, Dana Defosse, then a graduate student, sought a way to refer to non-transgender people that avoided marginalizing transgender people or implying that transgender people were an other."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

The prefix cis is Latin and goes way back at least to ancient Rome. I have a feeling the ancient Romans had other things to do than complain about it.

Well done, Elon Musk.

Ignore all the homophobes and transphobes calling LGBT people "perverts/groomers/pedos/etc etc" on a daily basis and focus instead on an ancient Latin prefix used in various contexts that means "on the same side of".

Makes total sense /s

what about all the other things that people were not allowed to say on Twitter before he bought it?

He’s not banning the word. But if someone is insisting on calling a person “cis” despite that person rejecting the term it will be considered harassment. Gender believers can cis each other to their hearts’ content.

excellent

The prefix cis is Latin and goes way back at least to ancient Rome. I have a feeling the ancient Romans had other things to do than complain about it

And I have a feeling that the ancient Romans didn't have a bunch of men calling themselves transwomen, using the word "cis" as an objectionable slur against actual women who didn't like men hijacking their personal spaces.

You seem to think this is useful information. As if the vague origin of the word invalidates the claim it’s a word used to subjugate people to an ideology we don’t believe in.

It doesn’t.

Now do the etymology of “blasphemer”. It will be interesting. But posting it won’t make me one, ever.

IMHO you can't just announce "cisgender" is an offensive slur because you don't like the fact transpeople exist.

he hasn’t “announced it’s an offensive slur …” because of that! how foolish to say so @MerlinsLostMarbles

cisgender is for people who think they believe in gender ideology (and most of them have no clue what it really is or why they follow it) so they can all crack on and use the term amongst themselves but calling other people those words when they don’t believe in it is simply offensive and disingenuous in trying to force it into general usage #NoThankYou

Elon is against the mutilation and sterilisation of young people who are being spoon fed this dangerous ideology and put in a lifetime medical pathway of surgery and drugs which only serves to make big pharmaceuticals rich.

I’m mystified why so many so-called “left” leaning people propagate this hideous ideology which only financially benefits these multinationals

Lord Marbles, you can cis yourself stupid.

You just can't do it to other people who disagree.

I don't define myself relative to 'trans' or 'cis'. I'm not one or the other. I don't identify with gender roles associated with my sex, but then nor do I expect to. Why would I? My sex just is, make the best of it or you'll have a miserable life because it can't be changed.

I suppose if I were to suddenly become a believer I'd probably 'be nonbinary' as the way I relate to gender has most in common with how I've heard people who call themselves nonbinary describe their experience. I don't think it needs a word though. I'm just a person, with a personality. Like all the other people.
Asking me whether I'm cis or trans makes about as much sense as asking an atheist what branch of Christianity they belong to. And if you persist in that after someone has told you they're an atheist you are being beyond rude.

Musk is insane. Nothing he dies or says makes any sense. He should not be banning words randomly, but whatever.

He hasn't. It's just when it's used to harass people who don't share your beliefs about gender.

I asked ChatGPT for its wisdom. This is pretty much what I thought.

Having differing opinions is fine, but you can't just declare a non-offensive word or prefix to suddenly be offensive because its dictionary definition refers to something you disagree with or dislike.

"In the context of gender critical ideology, the term "cis" is not inherently offensive. "Cis" is used as a counterpart to "trans" and simply refers to individuals whose gender identity aligns with the sex they were assigned at birth. However, some gender criticals may take offense to the term because they reject the notion that gender identity can differ from assigned sex.

Gender criticals often view the use of the term "cis" as an attempt to legitimize transgender identities and experiences, which goes against their belief system. They may perceive it as a form of language that challenges their perspective on gender and undermines their ideology.

It's worth noting that the term "cis" is widely used in academic, medical, and LGBTQ+ communities as a neutral descriptor to distinguish between individuals who are cisgender and those who are transgender. Its purpose is to provide a linguistic framework that acknowledges and respects diverse gender identities."

Take it up with Musk.

Is that the sound of the bottom of a barrel being scraped? "I asked ChatGPT for its wisdom" is the most idiotic opener I think I've seen from you so far Merlin.

Oh well, if ChatGPT says it’s fine…🤣🤣🤣 honestly, it just gets more and more moronic🤣🤣🤣

"Take it up with Musk."

I'll now make a point of fitting in "cis" anyway I can on Twitter, it's a perfectly valid word as mentioned and no dictionary lists it as offensive. If he has no issue with users calling gay and transpeople names which really are hateful offensive slurs such as "groomers/perverts" then I don't see why I should avoid using a prefix that's been used since ancient Rome without any issue until recently.

It does seem a little ironic. When Musk took over Twitter he announced everyone can have "free speech" and unbanned a lot of accounts which were previously perma-banned for hateful conduct. Now he's saying people will get banned for "cis".

I'll now make a point of fitting in "cis" anyway I can on Twitter

I'm quite sure you already did.

"I'll now make a point of fitting in "cis" anyway I can on Twitter

I'm quite sure you already did."

I think I've used it like once in 5 years on Twitter. But now it's on my mind thanks to Elon Musk I wonder if I can fit it in more.

Now he's saying people will get banned for "cis".

If only he had said that, you might have a point. But he didn’t did he? Why don’t you ask ChatGPT what he said for clarification?

Go and cis your way around Twitter. But if you call people cis after they ask you not to, you might get suspended, because it’s harassment of people to force them into an identity they don’t have. For the millionth time.

Should people be banned on Twitter for calling LGBT people groomers/perverts/pedos after the recipient has asked them not to?

Actually should it even be necessary for LGBT people to ask gender critical people to stop calling them these hateful slurs?

It’s a valid question to ask Elon. Maybe it’s next on his To Do list. You could ask him on Twitter?

I imagine he will tell you it’s an outrageous lie that “gender critical people” collectively call “LGBT people” collectively those slurs.

Can you give an example of an LGBT person being called a groomer/pervert/pedo, asking people to stop but people persisting?