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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Adam Kay

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AsTreesWalking · 18/06/2023 12:27

Anyone hear Desert Island Discs this morning? He's quite an interesting fellow, who resigned as a doctor in obstetrics because he couldn't bear his grief over deaths of babies and mothers.
Imagine my surprise-disbelief- to hear that he and his husband have 2 babies under a year old from 2 surrogate mothers. And he actually said that he hopes the children will forgive any mistakes they will make...

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SunnyEgg · 18/06/2023 18:39

I can’t really remember the book but those lyrics are woefully misogynistic

AngelasAirpods · 18/06/2023 18:41

I could tell by his voice in DiD that he was a wrong ‘un. Had to switch off when Lauren Laverne was simpering about the surrogacy. Bring back Kirsty.

Polkadotvest · 18/06/2023 19:07

Lottapianos · 18/06/2023 15:32

What he thinks about elderly women:

“with pelvic floors like quicksand and their uteri stalactite-ing into their thermals... And then a patient sneezes, you have to get a mop and bucket.”'

Women's bodies are so fucking hilarious, aren't they, when you don't have to live in one

Jesus hadn't read that bit. My opinion just crashed even lower

Longdarkcloud · 18/06/2023 19:11

I got the audiobook from the library and abandoned it very early on because the tone made me feel queasy. Thank the goddess he got out of medicine. How can a vile person such as he bring up heathy well adjusted children, let alone a female child.
If I had the authority I’d feel very tempted to keep a close watch on that household and at the first legitimate cause remove the child, or children even. Both parents need at least to be subject to scrutiny — (not because of their sexuality alone, I hasten to add)

Fiftyisthenewsixty · 18/06/2023 19:40

I agree he came across as deeply unpleasant in the book. Compare him with Prof Nikolaides (currently featured in a Netflix documentary) - someone who really seems to understand and like women.
So how do gay men become fathers then OP?
Bizarre comment! Life isn't fair. Women don't owe men procreation rights.

HowardKirksConscience · 18/06/2023 19:56

It’s been said several times on these threads that AK cited his inability to cope with obstetric tragedies as his reason for leaving medicine. He could have changed speciality, of course. However if you read This Is Going to Hurt, he’s constantly complaining about how little money he was earning, especially in comparison to his friends. He’s certainly attempting to squeeze every penny out of his time in medicine.

Okshacky · 18/06/2023 20:03

Gay men become fathers in exactly the same way as women who can’t carry a baby do. Aka adoption.

ThomasinaLivesHere · 18/06/2023 20:38

It’s depressing how common amongst celebrities this is becoming and how it’s never really challenged but instead praised on mainstream media.

I read his book and there were so many stories that didn’t sit right with me. There was a woman who was clearly in distress as she had issues but medical checks threw up nothing and was told there was nothing wrong with her and she has a melt down and he mocks her. So either she has mental health issues or she genuinely does have something undiagnosed, how is that comedy material. And a lot of other ones as well where I just thought the tone was off.

Ilovealido · 18/06/2023 20:45

I loved the series with Ben Whishaw & I think I even defended AK on here but the more I hear/ read about him the more I agree that he is a misogynistic twat. Also thinking about it, it takes a particular type of person to use their experiences as a medic as ‘entertainment.’ Those song lyrics are foul, I don’t care if he was in his 20s when he wrote them. It says a lot about him.

tmchsnvrngh · 18/06/2023 20:59

Fellas, Aren't you glad you're not...a woman? You're not a Sheila, you're a Peter, or a Clive. Because their lack of spatial awareness, makes them really fkin' careless. You should, never, ever let a woman drive. When a girl is sitting at the wheel you're gonna hear the crunch of steel. There's a very real danger that she'll crash into a stranger. If you want to leave the car alive never let a woman drive. If you ever let a bird reverse you're gonna end up in a hearse. You're in massive fkin' peril if you're driver's name is Sheryl If you want to leave the car alive never let a woman drive

It’s amazing how pretty you looked on that night, Your skirt was so short and your top was so tight. I bought you a drink and we danced on the floor, We pulled and you came back to mine for some more. Your skirt ended up on the living room chairs, And your top and your bra, they came off on the stairs, And though you looked fit with your clothes on, Man I was a fool… Cos you look like sht when you wear nothing at all. Oh the clothes that you wore looked a million dollars, But the body beneath, it looked just like Rick Waller’s. The makeup you wear is a clever disguise To hide your moustache and the squint in your eyes. Your cellulite’s dreadful, your covered in zits and Your stomach’s about as defined as quicksand. If I’m being honest your tits are unacceptably small, So you look like sht when you wear nothing at all. When we went back to mine I was up for a shag. In the bedroom I realised you’re a dumpy old slag. Your pubes reach your navel and they cover your thighs, Didn’t know they made arses that size. When we met on that night, I could swear that I never Would have guessed you’re a female Andrew Lloyd Webber. The hair on your chest’s a bit endocrinological, And you look like sht when you wear nothing at all. Your teeth are all yellow, with bloody great gaps so Your face is a picture, by Pablo Picasso. I can see that your arse has its own gravitational pull, And you look like sht when you wear nothing at all.

Once a month your girl's upset She goes to Boots to buy Lilets It happens every 28 days, When she's in her Luteal phase. All she does in moan and nag, You go five days without a shag There's no cunnilingus You can only use your fingers When she's using a menstrual rag. For the week or two preceeding The days your other half is bleeding, The moody b**ch is in a stress Complaining about PMS and, When her womb has started sluffin, You won't be eatin any muffin, Two, four, six, eight, Come on girls, lets menstruate. Heavy flow or gentle spotting, Running down her legs or clotting All that lining that she sheds leaves Nasty patches on your bedsheets. Just don't waste your efforts pleading You won't be shagging when she's bleeding The Methenamic acid means you might as well be flaccid When she's using a menstrual rag. It's hard to be all that devoted When she is looking fat and bloated From all the water she's retaining, While her pants have nasty staining. You won't be doing any groping When she's losing haemoglobin, Two, four, six, eight, Come on girls, lets menstruate. Get those Bodyforms with wings, and grab your Tampax by the strings, and TENA lady's sanitary pads, come on boys you've seen the ads. This dance is sweeping through the nation, Here's three cheers for menstruation, Its the latest craze Every 28 days They're all using a menstrual, Using a menstrual rag

This is a national service announcement for all men
If you go to Bolton
If you go to Manchester
Or crewe
Newcastle, or Scarborough
York, or Scunthorp, Bradford, Barnsley too
Or Grimsby
Listen up to what we have to say

Northern birds are lazy ugly whores who smell of burgers
So don't have too much to drink
Or you might fuck one
And end up getting aids

There's nothing fun
To be found off the M1
Northern birds are lower class
Slags who take it up the arse

They're in the sack
After one cider and black
But they're fucking awful rides
and your dick won't touch the sides
Da-da-da-da-da-da
Da-da-da-da

Northern Birds

Da-da-da-da-da

If you really have to
Go up north then follow our advice
Fight away the women
Or you'll find yourself with Pubic lice
And herpes
Your much better staying in the South
Northern Birds
Are desperate ugly hippos dressed in Burberry
With a peanut for a brain
And an accent that makes you want to die

Now you've been warned
They're all physically deformed
Northern birds
Are all obese
And they're riddled with disease

Try to escape
Northern sex is worse than rape
Stay down south and mark my words
Stear well clear of northern birds

Northern birds

Northern birds

tmchsnvrngh · 18/06/2023 21:01

Well, who could have predicted that? His love of women shines through!

DipsyLaLaPo · 18/06/2023 21:08

He is of the lads generation. Being the same age as me, ish, lyrics and attitudes like that were normal and celebrated. It was depressing. I know someone who knows him, and he's alright, but one of those people who thinks a lot of themselves because of their cleverness and education, and a bit of fame hasn't really done him any favours. He appears to have grown up a bit since his 20s, haven't we all. I don't think he is a bad person.

I will not defend his use of surrogacy though, you're right to point out the blatant hypocrisy there.

tmchsnvrngh · 18/06/2023 21:11

I know someone will say it's just satire get over it but men have hidden behind that excuse so many fucking times. Lol hadn't even finished typing! As if attitudes like that aren't normal and celebrated now?

tmchsnvrngh · 18/06/2023 21:15

Sorry, that sounded aggressive reading it back! Do you know when he wrote the songs?

NutellaEllaElla · 18/06/2023 21:16

I used to like some of the Amateur Transplants stuff but when Suman left, it was apparent to me that Adam was shit. His lyrics were creepy and nasty. Suman was necessary for taking the unpleasantness out and making it funnier. Half of This is gonna hurt is very old medic dad jokes.

Woman2023 · 18/06/2023 21:22

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2023 12:35

I read This is Going to Hurt and found it a bit 'off'. I felt there was a lack of respect for the birthing women who were his patients. The surrogate thing stacks up

Exactly this. I was still surprised to read about him using surrogates in the US considering why he left the NHS.

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tmchsnvrngh · 18/06/2023 20:59

Fellas, Aren't you glad you're not...a woman? You're not a Sheila, you're a Peter, or a Clive. Because their lack of spatial awareness, makes them really fkin' careless. You should, never, ever let a woman drive. When a girl is sitting at the wheel you're gonna hear the crunch of steel. There's a very real danger that she'll crash into a stranger. If you want to leave the car alive never let a woman drive. If you ever let a bird reverse you're gonna end up in a hearse. You're in massive fkin' peril if you're driver's name is Sheryl If you want to leave the car alive never let a woman drive

It’s amazing how pretty you looked on that night, Your skirt was so short and your top was so tight. I bought you a drink and we danced on the floor, We pulled and you came back to mine for some more. Your skirt ended up on the living room chairs, And your top and your bra, they came off on the stairs, And though you looked fit with your clothes on, Man I was a fool… Cos you look like sht when you wear nothing at all. Oh the clothes that you wore looked a million dollars, But the body beneath, it looked just like Rick Waller’s. The makeup you wear is a clever disguise To hide your moustache and the squint in your eyes. Your cellulite’s dreadful, your covered in zits and Your stomach’s about as defined as quicksand. If I’m being honest your tits are unacceptably small, So you look like sht when you wear nothing at all. When we went back to mine I was up for a shag. In the bedroom I realised you’re a dumpy old slag. Your pubes reach your navel and they cover your thighs, Didn’t know they made arses that size. When we met on that night, I could swear that I never Would have guessed you’re a female Andrew Lloyd Webber. The hair on your chest’s a bit endocrinological, And you look like sht when you wear nothing at all. Your teeth are all yellow, with bloody great gaps so Your face is a picture, by Pablo Picasso. I can see that your arse has its own gravitational pull, And you look like sht when you wear nothing at all.

Once a month your girl's upset She goes to Boots to buy Lilets It happens every 28 days, When she's in her Luteal phase. All she does in moan and nag, You go five days without a shag There's no cunnilingus You can only use your fingers When she's using a menstrual rag. For the week or two preceeding The days your other half is bleeding, The moody b**ch is in a stress Complaining about PMS and, When her womb has started sluffin, You won't be eatin any muffin, Two, four, six, eight, Come on girls, lets menstruate. Heavy flow or gentle spotting, Running down her legs or clotting All that lining that she sheds leaves Nasty patches on your bedsheets. Just don't waste your efforts pleading You won't be shagging when she's bleeding The Methenamic acid means you might as well be flaccid When she's using a menstrual rag. It's hard to be all that devoted When she is looking fat and bloated From all the water she's retaining, While her pants have nasty staining. You won't be doing any groping When she's losing haemoglobin, Two, four, six, eight, Come on girls, lets menstruate. Get those Bodyforms with wings, and grab your Tampax by the strings, and TENA lady's sanitary pads, come on boys you've seen the ads. This dance is sweeping through the nation, Here's three cheers for menstruation, Its the latest craze Every 28 days They're all using a menstrual, Using a menstrual rag

This is a national service announcement for all men
If you go to Bolton
If you go to Manchester
Or crewe
Newcastle, or Scarborough
York, or Scunthorp, Bradford, Barnsley too
Or Grimsby
Listen up to what we have to say

Northern birds are lazy ugly whores who smell of burgers
So don't have too much to drink
Or you might fuck one
And end up getting aids

There's nothing fun
To be found off the M1
Northern birds are lower class
Slags who take it up the arse

They're in the sack
After one cider and black
But they're fucking awful rides
and your dick won't touch the sides
Da-da-da-da-da-da
Da-da-da-da

Northern Birds

Da-da-da-da-da

If you really have to
Go up north then follow our advice
Fight away the women
Or you'll find yourself with Pubic lice
And herpes
Your much better staying in the South
Northern Birds
Are desperate ugly hippos dressed in Burberry
With a peanut for a brain
And an accent that makes you want to die

Now you've been warned
They're all physically deformed
Northern birds
Are all obese
And they're riddled with disease

Try to escape
Northern sex is worse than rape
Stay down south and mark my words
Stear well clear of northern birds

Northern birds

Northern birds

Er, fucking hell. Thank Goddess he's not a doctor any more.

And Posie's been hauled into the police for interview for hours for saying a man can't become a woman?

If misogyny was 'hate speech', he should be called in by the Police. But of course, he's male, and misogyny is apparently the 'hate speech' that's ok. Completely repugnant. Any future surrogates should be forced to read that before they decide to agree to carry a child for him. I'm sure there's an endless supply of commissioning parents and perhaps they could choose those who don't hate women so much.

AsTreesWalking · 18/06/2023 21:58

Honestly, I didn't know much about him when I posted. Hadn't read his book or watched the series, I was just so flabbergasted when he talked about the babies - like a pp I thought he'd say they were adopted.
Having read the thread I very sorry for those children.

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FrancescaContini · 19/06/2023 00:43

@tmchsnvrngh Did Adam Kay write those words? He must be a very disturbed man: the vitriol against women is sickening to read. There’s nothing witty or satirical here - it’s blatant nastiness from a man who finds women loathsome and repugnant. How will he treat Ruby when she needs sanpro?

FrancescaContini · 19/06/2023 00:45

“Northern sex is worse than rape” WTAF?

Yfory · 19/06/2023 00:46

I didnt listen but I gather he referred to women who are pregnant as "pregnant people".
I have zero time for men like him.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/06/2023 01:00

Fuck me Adam

just because it rhymes it doesn’t make it ok

and as for ‘you shouldn’t have babies at 53’, well yes, that’s biological reality for you

shall we try another one? How about ‘two men can’t make a baby'?

🎯

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 19/06/2023 07:01

Sadly but not unsurprisingly lots of apologists for him on the other thread. Apparently because he wrote those lyrics 20 years ago it's OK. He was "young" and we all say "silly things" that we "don't mean".
Someone has pointed out he was 24 and already working for the NHS at the time.

FrancescaContini · 19/06/2023 08:14

”They’re all physically deformed
Northern birds”

Yeah. Silly boy.