Post Westminster Hall Debate - what are the next steps to ensure the sex based rights of biological women

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The other thread is now full https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4800027-debate-relating-to-the-definition-of-sex-in-the-equality-act-2010-will-be-in-westminster-hall-on-12-june-2023-430pm

And what it will achieve we will have to wait and see.

But is clarifying the EA the most important campaign to ensure women's sex based rights.

Or ...

I am here for the new biology from Mishy. I suspect it comes from the same place though where Wickes is only interested in six figure flat refurbishments and wouldn’t be interested in a poster’s five figure flat refurbishment.

I am looking forward to the new science though. Gosh imagine how embarrassing it must be for all those medical staff and scientists to be operating under the mistaken impression that there are two sexes, two types of gametes and not three and that sex is immutable and imperative to know so medical procedures work to save a person’s life.

Blimey, better get that science update through fast, Mishy!

Lols I'm sorry. A biology teacher, teaching old biology that has significantly shifted on in terms of understanding. What we need is MPs listening to real science, but hey that is never going to happen when people can instead try and punish a very small minority of trans people trying to live their lives.

😂🤣🤪😆😂 someone please show this to the right honourable Robert Winston 😂

Actually don't; he may have a heart attack laughing so hard.

punish a very small minority of trans people trying to live their lives

even here Mishy is wrong. Well right in that it IS a very small group who believe in ‘new science’. I think most adult trans people understand they haven’t changed sex.

But it isn’t just a small group trying the live their lives. It is a growing group insisting everyone pretend to believe what amounts to falsehoods and compelled speech.

I may have stumbled across the NEW SCIENCE! It seems like a load of cobblers to me and more propaganda for the hurty feelz gang.

I think he’s saying that because DSDs exist plus there are more trans people now this suggests that there is something evolutionary going on. He links no evidence but says some genes are deliberately evolved to create diversity by not copying precisely. 🙄

Is it just me, or does this guy look like the very spitting image of Matt Walsh?
Freaky!

says some genes are deliberately evolved to create diversity by not copying precisely

Assuming that your summary is correct, he ascribing intent to a random process. That's not how mutations work.

Surely gaslighting has to actually cause doubt in the minds of the gaslighted?

Aren't we mostly laughing at it now?

And pitying those who are doing the gaslighting for their foolishness?

Gaslighted politicians have their own fart gas coming out of their mouths.

Mishy is only gaslighting Mishy.

'if you wash yourself in estrogen you become more feminine and if you wash yourself in testosterone you become more masculine'

Sadly, it seems even Pink News is still wedded to the Old Biology.

https://twitter.com/colwight/status/1670356195037822981?

That’s hilarious @ArabeIIaScott! Hmm if I wash in old spice will I be able to make a taught and diamonds materialise?….

(wanders off to boots to find this magical elixir which I didn’t know was still available….)

Stupid phone - obvs I typed yacht

I looked up the bloke talking about hormone washes, btw.

He seems to have a degree in biology, although it's a vague reference buried in an incredibly long story about his abusive personal history.

https://healthecycle.com/about-jack/

There definitely IS something evolutionary going on (to account for the huge increase in those identifying as "trans").

It's called "social media".

Tending the wounds of masculinity?
Fuck right off.
Jordan Peterson conflated with Andrew Tate as supporting violence.
Fuck right off with bells on.

This self-IDd scientist's blog.

Holy shit, that poor baby girl.

Awful, isn't it? And the boy in the similar case that gets a passing mention.

Im confused about the hormone washing as that’s not in the video but for some reason the YouTuber has it in the description.

Jenn Smith’s work on protecting children from gender ideology is good but ‘she’ seems to be a bit gender woo still. I’m sure previously Jenn was aware Jenn was a man with a history of abuse.

How’d you track down the Tik Tokker? I’m impressed.

His tiktok address is in the youtube vid. And his website is in the tiktok.

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia yes that’s what he does - from the video “the word mutations is misleading because it suggests that the strategically implemented differences between individuals are somehow mistakes. They’re not, these differences are the evolutionary strategy of this planet”

goes on to say that evolution selects for collective not individual strength and that this is why we have diversity in sex and gender. Then goes on to wiffle on about indigenous societies.

Never mind that sterilising humans is definitely NOT a good evolutionary strategy for survival. Seems more likely a strategy for self destruction to me.

Or that gender is socially constructed

You can find plenty on Twitter to engage with.

Quite a few use blocklists.

I had never heard of Cambuslang East Councillor Katy Loudon before a few days ago when she was selected as a candidate for a potential byelection in Rutherglen and Hamilton West.

Never heard of her. Never interacted with her.

Tried to view her Twitter profile and I had been pre-emptively blocked.