Can someone explain to to me why this has gone to court? Teenage girl pretending to be a boy.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/08/teenage-girl-georgia-bilham-pretended-to-be-boy-duped-second-girl-sex-court-hears

I'm following this and cannot understand why this is being prosecuted.

Think it’s pretty self explanatory.

"The alleged victim, who can’t be named, insists she did not consent to have sexual contact with a girl. "

Sounds like sexual assault

Really? Isn't it obvious?

Because she tricked other women by pretending the male. They did not consent to have sex with a female but because of her lies they did.

The article says that the victim was basically blind. I would hope that someone who used disability to sexually assault someone would be on trial.

Because it is sexual assault.

Because sex without genuine consent is a crime. Obviously.

Taking advantage of a girl who is effectively blind without glasses is especially despicable.

You seriously can’t understand?

It’s obvious. It’s sexual assault.

Jesus. How would you feel if you thought you were having sex with a man and they turned out to be a woman?? It's sexual assault.

The victim didn't consent to sex with a woman.

Sex by deception is still a crime, isn't it? However hard Stonewall campaigns, they haven't managed to get that one removed from the statue books...yet

This is just evil. Deliberately manipulating those poor kids. OP YABVVU this is appalling.

I think the OP is trying to point out that of all the sexual assaults that are reported to the police, this one is the one that the CPS chose to take to trial. What is different about this one? Is it just that the perpetrator is female? It's certainly not about another woman getting raped because that happens all the bloody time and the police and CPS rarely bother their socks over it.

My sympathy lies with the victim.

Sex by deception is something that TRAs are trying to say should be abolished.

I wonder why?

So yes it is wrong. Its worng whoever carried out the deception.

What is disturbing is there have been more than a few cases of women being prosecuted for this.

Is it part of the increase in the number of young women who dont want to be seen or think of themselves as lesbian.

It's absolutely despicable. Sex by deception is always wrong, illegal and non-consensual.But to take advantage of someone's disability to do so is horrible.

I can't feel sorry for these self-hating young lesbians because using another person for sex like that is vile.

Probably because it was easier to build a case .

Nowhere does the OP imply this is what is being questioned.

Just so misreads what the case is about. That's why it is called sex by deception.

The comment disrespects what has happened to the woman in this case.

It also fails to understand the crime of rape is something different, and is about consent.

Which doesn't mean I am not as angry as anyone else by both the police and the CPS failing to effectively prosecute rape.

But to bring that in here is whataboutery.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4696625-sex-by-deception-consultation

Because the perpetrator admitted it all in texts so it was easy to prosecute. Men rarely feel guilt, shame and remorse after sexual assault.

Are there any incidents of transwomen being prosecuted for 'stealthing'? Because the only time I can remember this offence ending up in court is when the victim of stealthing commits assault like this one.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-jailed-attacking-trans-woman-24375389

It goes without saying I hope that I utterly condemn this man for assault.

"The legal definition of rape is when a person intentionally penetrates another's vagina, anus or mouth with a penis, without the other person's consent."

So in this instance it cant be a rape case.

But I do see from googling (which I missed at the time) is that there is a call for a new law to be called "inducing sexual activity by deception"

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/practice-points/sex-lies-and-law-reform-when-should-we-criminalise-sex-by-deception-/5114821.article

Is this a transman? Because the Guardian is using male pronouns for what they are calling, in their headline, 'Teenage girl'.

'The jury heard that George, who was wearing a tracksuit with his hood up, drove Hughes around the Great Orme, the headland by Llandudno.
“I caught a glimpse of him at one point, then my face got pushed away,” she said, explaining that George pushed her away. She considered it “strange behaviour” and never saw him again.'

Is this a transman?

Or part of the deception towards a heterosexual woman.

Withouth wanting to be flippant because this is serious, would the trans community claim George as trans?

This girl/woman does not seem to claim a 'trans' identity. So why use male pronouns?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12172481/Mother-girl-duped-woman-pretending-boy-tells-sex-assault-trial-realised-truth.html