Update from CF

[DerekFaker]

This sounds horrendous. How can the police do this.

And yes, it was exactly as we predicted in the previous thread.

Should a certain police officer pop up in this thread, please try not to get drawn into protracted, repetitive arguments with him. Please!

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw&s=19

I have been in the game for a long time, and we don’t usually kick peoples’s doors down if they don’t report at the police station. The police would spend their lives doing so if that was the case. That itself is extremely suspect. Are they using terrorism laws to force entry?

Can someone please shed some light if possible.

Surrey are depriving her Autistic child of education. Why should a family containing Autistic spectrum people have any human rights - apart from sex offender rights?

JFC Merlin, give it a rest.

@MerlinsLostMarbles could you be any more unpleasant? Not even attempting to hide your glee at a women being treated by the police in a way which gives you a thrill?

Having said that. I still don't trust the police to do the right thing in respect of women. And at the risk of derailing i would like to know what the police think they could do to restore trust

@Brefugee I ask myself the same question. I know people have no reason to believe a nameless faceless person on an anonymous post but genuinely, at least my own force, are constantly working on that very thing. I could talk all day about the difficulties of policing, the resources, the criminal justice system, etc etc but ultimately I know I'm surrounded by colleagues that really are trying to do the best. It's just so complex.

Even this current situation... if the police were 'siding' with CF the backlash would be the same from the opposing side. The public are so often divided and police are meant to remain neutral whilst 'catching the bad peeps' and 'protecting the innocent'. But everyone has a different opinion on who the bad person actually is.

That said, forces are long overdue an overhaul on ingrained or institutionalised misogyny and I do believe you will continue to see a lot of negative headlines over the next year as forces take a strong stance. In the long run it should help promote more confidence in policing but in the short term, it's only going to look worse for police while they continue making headlines for the wrong reasons.

Wow the lengths one might sink to

We don't know that CF is guilty. But we don't know she's innocent either. Because we don't even know the allegations!

Problem is, CF and her lawyer don't know either. Hence (some of) the uproar. Do keep up.

A previous poster did raise concerns for her children.

You're not concerned for her or her children. You're enjoying having an opportunity to be cruel and delight in their upset.

Wow Merlins. That came across as nasty, even for you.

He's always nasty. I reckon he's lost more than he's marbles!

Thankfully for us the law around equality seems fairly straightforward, especially now it has been updated. I fear a new and different government may slam us into reverse but that’s for a different thread.

What is now being tested however is free speech and democracy.

Anyone that wishes to preserve the should care about this case and others.

I am sure they did, I have no doubt about that at all.

Fortunately for said children they have also have a wonderful father, I am reading, a pillar of the community. I am sure the children are hugely proud of their courageous and brave mother.

Yes really weird isn't it.

@GCalltheway I quite agree. It is one to watch closely. I do try to follow the feminist board and keep up to date on the case law although there are some incredibly well educated and researched women on these boards.

I only come at this from a different perspective based on my own experiences. I can honestly say that when police know they are under the microscope you are even more likely to find everything is by the book. They absolutely knew this would hit the press by making this application which is what is so interesting. One would expect there to be good credible evidence to support such an application and for their own legal team to be fully involved as they are civil orders.

This leading me to suspect there is more to this than CF has made known. Has any other interested party made any information public? (Genuine question)

Meanwhile, over in REAL crime.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1666377982007468032?t=12xmmj9KvJOv4_fx-B15rQ&s=19

Some posters do seem to derive perverse pleasure form being as obnoxious as possible.

Given the case under discussion and its overtones of obsession, stalking and abuse, it seems more likely that a person who only responds when Caroline Farrow’s case crops up might actually be an involved party. Anyone can claim to be a police officer on an anonymous forum.

Such as?

What else would warrant this sort of curtailment on her personal freedoms and activity?

You refer to me.

Thanks for the misgendering.

Even this current situation... if the police were 'siding' with CF the backlash would be the same from the opposing side. The public are so often divided and police are meant to remain neutral whilst 'catching the bad peeps' and 'protecting the innocent'. But everyone has a different opinion on who the bad person actually is.

oh you police! it's not about "sides" and who makes the most noise. Although given the policing of Let Women Speak and other events lately it actually looks as though it is about the ones making the most noise. (hint: it isn't women)

How do you feel when you see women being assaulted or shouted at in this way and the police just standing by? as a woman? as a cop?

That said, forces are long overdue an overhaul on ingrained or institutionalised misogyny and I do believe you will continue to see a lot of negative headlines over the next year as forces take a strong stance. In the long run it should help promote more confidence in policing but in the short term, it's only going to look worse for police while they continue making headlines for the wrong reasons.

Ah, we have the answer here, for all of you. Luckily. Because where Felix operates there is no sexism or misogyny. (i can't remember if we discussed racism tho)
You should all benchmark his force/squad/station.

Have you personally experienced sexism at work? (we have another thread for uninformed and ex-uniformed women to discuss this if you'd like to take it there?)

Are you truly trying to imply that there are no corrupt police officers trying to bend the law to suit them or their agendas?

Can we just pause and consider Wayne Couzens for a moment? And the inside support he received? And others like him. Do you really expect anyone to ‘trust the process’ when we are faced with the current levels of misogyny and hate towards women?

I have just spent some time looking over past police action against CF, and it seems to me that there is a determination to silence this woman completely. Maybe given her wholesome life and faith she feels like the one they most want to take down - I have no idea why she has been chosen or how many are like her. I think we are about to find out if this gets the exposure we expect.

Ultimately the law and its process is there to protect free speech. This country is policed by consent, I might remind you. I wouldn’t test the patience of the public much more - it’s already at breaking point.

Have you ever asked what you want to be called? Or you have your pronouns in your profile or badge? ( oh wait, neither apply here). Perhaps announce it in your post each time. Wold that make you feel/behave better?

Genuine questions btw

Thanks for the misgendering

How on EARTH is someone supposed to know your gender on SM? 😅or care, come to that, given that this thread isn't about you?