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Update from CF

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DerekFaker · 07/06/2023 08:28

This sounds horrendous. How can the police do this.

And yes, it was exactly as we predicted in the previous thread.

Should a certain police officer pop up in this thread, please try not to get drawn into protracted, repetitive arguments with him. Please!

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw&s=19

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1666337645427847169?s=19&t=LWaRDewlk7r_8pVTdkE_tw

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FigRollsAlly · 07/06/2023 16:53

MerlinsLostMarbles · 07/06/2023 16:38

It's an active case and police investigation, and it's been established there are things the public don't know about. You don't have the right to judge Farrow as "innocent".

Sorry Merlin, you’re quite correct: women shouldn’t have their own opinions about this, only righteous people like you should be allowed to imply innocence or guilt when they post and suggest consequences such as the removal of someone’s children.

DrLouiseJMoody · 07/06/2023 16:53

I do actually have the right to judge my friend innocent based upon seeing things only an obvious sock in this thread is also likely to have seen. Moreover, I am not going to stop referring to her as innocent irrespective of tomorrow's outcome. Neither will I stop using my platform to highlight police abuse of women - actual ones. Now't anyone can do about it since I'm discussing my friend and no-one else.

BaronMunchausen · 07/06/2023 16:57

MerlinsLostMarbles · 07/06/2023 16:38

It's an active case and police investigation, and it's been established there are things the public don't know about. You don't have the right to judge Farrow as "innocent".

Presuming her innocence isn't just a right, it's a legal requirement. Section 2 of Article 6 of the Human Rights Act 1988 stipulates that “everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law”.

AlisonDonut · 07/06/2023 17:01

If the only evidence is tweets, and those of us that have followed the account for years have read those tweets, and seen no crimes, then until proven otherwise I shall also call CF innocent. As per the law of the land.

HandBall · 07/06/2023 17:03

BaronMunchausen · 07/06/2023 16:57

Presuming her innocence isn't just a right, it's a legal requirement. Section 2 of Article 6 of the Human Rights Act 1988 stipulates that “everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law”.

We don't have human rights in reality, we only have lies and our own life with grounded reality where we have tangible things and same people.

Online, TV, films, cartoons, newspapers, work, school, public institutions, charities and the private sector are more or less gaslighting thus lunatic asylums staffed by shrugging jobdworths now.

FredaWallace · 07/06/2023 17:23

oh no. thats a shame. isnt it.

IcakethereforeIam · 07/06/2023 17:31
wizard of oz childhood GIF

For no reason this just occurred to me

IwantToRetire · 07/06/2023 17:43

I was going to ask why Fair Cop haven't been involved and then saw this tweet - which seems rather dismissive. https://twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1666451082745192449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Escreen-name%3AWeAreFairCop%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c12

And not very supportive comment from Sarah Phillimore

Also ( and not saying this is the case here) but local police can act it a way that you and I might think is not "professional" and sometimes it can be that cases get pushed because of one individual in that force who isn't prepared to back down, and has the seniority to push it. Or in a situation I am personally aware of (not about GC / WSBR) the senior officers dont feel able to tackle the gang mentality / canteen culture of those they are supposed to be supervising who are then free to act as they want.

Faffertea · 07/06/2023 17:49

CF is a modern (ha!) day witch. She said the wrong words and she won’t repent. Therefore she must be punished.

And just as the women before us it doesn’t matter if we’re innocent or not.

We won’t do as we’re told so we must be punished.

And now we can’t be tied to a ducking stool and there must be semblance of due process the process to prove innocence or guilt must be sufficiently traumatising to punish the transgressor and serve as a warning to others so they don’t dare speak out.

WagnersFourthSymphony · 07/06/2023 17:54

... or a scold's bridle🤐

DerekFaker · 07/06/2023 17:57

FredaWallace · 07/06/2023 17:23

oh no. thats a shame. isnt it.

How's the job going?

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GrabbyGabby · 07/06/2023 18:07

Umm something smells off to me here.

  1. She live tweeted being doorstepped but this happened because she was a no show at the police office
  2. The usually very GC local police commissioner has been utterly silent
  3. Fair play keeping their distance, when this is right in their wheelhouse
  4. Sarah Philimore also keeping her distance

As i said before, i am fully prepared for this to be a mixed bag of police over reach, and some more stuff coming to light about CF that might make it harder for her to be viewed exclusively as victim.

Boiledbeetle · 07/06/2023 18:08

WagnersFourthSymphony · 07/06/2023 17:54

... or a scold's bridle🤐

The most recent thing saved in my photos

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CliantheLang · 07/06/2023 18:08

IwantToRetire · 07/06/2023 17:43

I was going to ask why Fair Cop haven't been involved and then saw this tweet - which seems rather dismissive. https://twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1666451082745192449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Escreen-name%3AWeAreFairCop%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c12

And not very supportive comment from Sarah Phillimore

Also ( and not saying this is the case here) but local police can act it a way that you and I might think is not "professional" and sometimes it can be that cases get pushed because of one individual in that force who isn't prepared to back down, and has the seniority to push it. Or in a situation I am personally aware of (not about GC / WSBR) the senior officers dont feel able to tackle the gang mentality / canteen culture of those they are supposed to be supervising who are then free to act as they want.

Harry seems to be friends with Caroline's stalker. IIRC Harry gave said stalker info about Kate Scottow when she was being terrorized by the police.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 07/06/2023 18:11

GCalltheway · 07/06/2023 15:41

Or gets arrested whist cooking a roast! We might have had an easier time in medieval Britain when we only had to contend with the drownings. I find it fascinating anyone pees over the floor in protest to insist this is their history and life story too 🤷🏼‍♀️

Oh it's worse than pee over the floor.
They save flagons of piss to empty over their heads.
I dont even want to know how long they have been pissing into vessels to save it. Or where its stored until the right time.

DrLouiseJMoody · 07/06/2023 18:21

Sarah Phillimore, not having knowledge of events, should have refrained from taking a swipe at a woman whose life risks being upended tomorrow. It's a despicable post in light of events, and whoever pointed out that Harry Miller disclosed information to a TRA is right - this was disclosed by both parties and publicly by one of them.

Lisa Townsend is operating with one side of the story so is also in no position to take a view.

Any backlash against the police is, frankly, entirely deserved.

FredaWallace · 07/06/2023 18:30

The new one is going fine x

DorkingMum · 07/06/2023 18:32

The Chief Constable of Surrey Police has changed very recently. The last guy seemed quite sensible (although still wasting money on rainbow shoelaces and crossings 😡).
I wonder if the new one has different views/ connections which is why this has all started up again for CF?

FredaWallace · 07/06/2023 18:33

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GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2023 18:47

Please detail exactly what crime(s) CF has been charged with @FredaWallace and how you are privy to evidence that she has done what you allege.

GCalltheway · 07/06/2023 18:47

GrabbyGabby · 07/06/2023 18:07

Umm something smells off to me here.

  1. She live tweeted being doorstepped but this happened because she was a no show at the police office
  2. The usually very GC local police commissioner has been utterly silent
  3. Fair play keeping their distance, when this is right in their wheelhouse
  4. Sarah Philimore also keeping her distance

As i said before, i am fully prepared for this to be a mixed bag of police over reach, and some more stuff coming to light about CF that might make it harder for her to be viewed exclusively as victim.

  1. Not showing up at a police station literally happens all the time - there is something to be said for why should she? She hasn’t be charged with anything to date.

  2. No commissioner or police officer can get involved - they have to stay neutral- it’s a love case.

  3. I imagine all parties are waiting for the facts at least a charge.

  4. See above. It would be unwise to wade in without the detail.

None of us knows the facts of the case, however, what is totally uncontested is the onerous and unnecessarily punitive court order Surrey Police are trying to ram through.

It makes no difference at this point if she is guiltily or innocent, the order is severe and one has to hope there are reasonable grounds to request such an order, given a formal charge is still pending.

The law in our country states there is a presumption of innocence unless proven otherwise. At this point the allegations are unfounded.

GCalltheway · 07/06/2023 18:49

-**’a live case, sadly not a love case!

HandBall · 07/06/2023 18:49

an idiot propelled by her misguided sense of righteousness

This could be said about anyone over a lifetime.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 07/06/2023 18:51

Freda won't be back.

He needs to spend some time coming up with a good response about why he was suspended from his last job.

GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2023 18:53

None of us knows the facts of the case, however, what is totally uncontested is the onerous and unnecessarily punitive court order Surrey Police are trying to ram through.

It makes no difference at this point if she is guiltily or innocent, the order is severe and one has to hope there are reasonable grounds to request such an order, given a formal charge is still pending.

The law in our country states there is a presumption of innocence unless proven otherwise. At this point the allegations are unfounded.

This in spades.

I am neutral until I hear what CF has been charged with and what the evidence is for that charge. My issue is with the imposition of this draconian order, what is the basis for it? CF has not been charged with anything, let alone tried for anything and found not guilty or guilty and until such time she is very much innocent whatever anyone may think of her personally or her views.

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