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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGBTQ etc revised flag.

114 replies

Moomoola · 04/06/2023 08:22

I looked for an explanation of the new V shape and circle.
im surprised that the V has black and brown stripes which represent ‘people of colour’, but no white stripe.
to me this suggests that the flag is designed by white people..who are graciously including ‘people of colour’ as being allowed in the gang.

apologies for the bad explanation! But isn’t this a bit batshit/ awful?

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ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 15:07

I don’t like the one for Mum’s- looks like a bread bag

fivetonap · 04/06/2023 15:12

ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 09:24

It’ll be neuro diversity first.

Yep. I'm guessing AuADHD

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 15:36

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:10

And let's not forget the most icky of Pride flags the MAP pride flag

Which Microsoft included when they did their big inclusive logo screen thing. 😡

On that topic, MS recently forced the pride flag into their task bar in Windows 11 (assuming you have widgets enabled). You can disable it apparently by setting your region to Saudi Arabia. Classic MS virtue signalling whenever it's not necessary, tucking it away when it might.

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 15:41

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:19

Furries do indeed have a pride flag. But they have lots of options. (I'll stop now i promise)

@Boiledbeetle I like the LGB flag with the triangle cut out. Simple to reproduce which is essential. Allows someone to support gay rights without having that support be assumed to be for anyone else trying to hitch a ride.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 15:41

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 15:36

Which Microsoft included when they did their big inclusive logo screen thing. 😡

On that topic, MS recently forced the pride flag into their task bar in Windows 11 (assuming you have widgets enabled). You can disable it apparently by setting your region to Saudi Arabia. Classic MS virtue signalling whenever it's not necessary, tucking it away when it might.

Ugh! I would hope it was accidental. But i don't have that much faith left these days!

nahwhale · 04/06/2023 15:43

MagpiePi · 04/06/2023 08:36

I thought ‘intersex’ people didn’t want to be included in all this nonsense.

I don't think intersex people are all one group that think exactly the same

nahwhale · 04/06/2023 15:44

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 15:36

Which Microsoft included when they did their big inclusive logo screen thing. 😡

On that topic, MS recently forced the pride flag into their task bar in Windows 11 (assuming you have widgets enabled). You can disable it apparently by setting your region to Saudi Arabia. Classic MS virtue signalling whenever it's not necessary, tucking it away when it might.

I don't want to identify as being in Saudi Arabia

dropthevipers · 04/06/2023 15:51

FFS. Anyone fancy a drink?

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 15:53

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:19

Furries do indeed have a pride flag. But they have lots of options. (I'll stop now i promise)

Ugh! I messed up my last post. I was going to say "don't mention the furries, lest they appear". There was a thread on KiwiFarms about the Linus Tech Tips YouTube channel where one of their team has just declared themselves Emily. The farm's have noticed a lot of posts that are 99% certainly from that individual about furry lifestyle stuff between him and his partner. One tweet complained about how so many kids were "sex-negative" because the Church and puritans preached their morality at them.

Furries! How can the concept of pride be compatible with that? Sloth, gluttony, lust and envy I can see. Pride? No.

IncomingTraffic · 04/06/2023 15:54

nahwhale · 04/06/2023 15:43

I don't think intersex people are all one group that think exactly the same

I think the organisations that speak on behalf of people with DSDs have been quite vocal that they don’t like the term intersex and then aren’t keen on TRAs appropriating them as and when it suits them.

None of the people involved in making these flags are actually representing the communities they claim to properly. There’s no singular opinion in any of the groups.

But, weirdly reflecting most LGB people’s views on the T seem to be the least important part of the entire flag iteration project.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 15:56

dropthevipers · 04/06/2023 15:51

FFS. Anyone fancy a drink?

Meg Ryan Wine GIF by MIRAMAX

👆

nahwhale · 04/06/2023 15:56

IncomingTraffic · 04/06/2023 15:54

I think the organisations that speak on behalf of people with DSDs have been quite vocal that they don’t like the term intersex and then aren’t keen on TRAs appropriating them as and when it suits them.

None of the people involved in making these flags are actually representing the communities they claim to properly. There’s no singular opinion in any of the groups.

But, weirdly reflecting most LGB people’s views on the T seem to be the least important part of the entire flag iteration project.

I think they are just going to have to seperate out all the flags into different colours. Whoever "they" are. The flag committee.

SirChenjins · 04/06/2023 15:58

Maybe it means that their next self ID target group - be any sex you like, be any colour you like?

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 15:58

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 15:53

Ugh! I messed up my last post. I was going to say "don't mention the furries, lest they appear". There was a thread on KiwiFarms about the Linus Tech Tips YouTube channel where one of their team has just declared themselves Emily. The farm's have noticed a lot of posts that are 99% certainly from that individual about furry lifestyle stuff between him and his partner. One tweet complained about how so many kids were "sex-negative" because the Church and puritans preached their morality at them.

Furries! How can the concept of pride be compatible with that? Sloth, gluttony, lust and envy I can see. Pride? No.

Furrie Dancing GIF by beeeky

Don't search the gifs

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 16:02

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 15:58

Don't search the gifs

I worry that at some point someone is going to decide the only solution is try turning civilisation off and on again.

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 18:27

@OldGardinia

"I worry that at some point someone is going to decide the only solution is try turning civilisation off and on again."

The irony of that is in the bible after god did just this with the great flood he set a rainbow in the sky to show he would never do such a thing again. All we have to look forward to now is the end of days....

kaylangrish · 04/06/2023 18:58

NonHypotheticalLurkingParent · 04/06/2023 10:17

To me it looks like one of the arrows on WW2 invasion maps.

Each year a new colour will be added to the flag and finally the old horizontal striped flag will be obliterated.

I haven't read the full thread yet so apologies if someone else has said this, but women on radfem Tumblr have discussed this with the idea that the arrow points right, with the intention of eventually covering up the rainbow, the way homosexuality is slowly being erased in the LGBT community.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 19:11

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 18:27

@OldGardinia

"I worry that at some point someone is going to decide the only solution is try turning civilisation off and on again."

The irony of that is in the bible after god did just this with the great flood he set a rainbow in the sky to show he would never do such a thing again. All we have to look forward to now is the end of days....

Oh Christ! (Ooh fitting for once) so we've already had the restart and they kicked it off with a rainbow. seems fitting this particular time period will finish with one as well!

funnelfan · 04/06/2023 20:43

it’s getting silly now. I thought the whole point of the rainbow for the LGB community was to show we (all humanity) are under one sky regardless of any form of diversity but in particular sexuality. And rainbows are joyful and seen when sunshine streams through the rain, so a kind of “hold strong through the storm”, which is why we were putting them in our windows at the start of the first lockdown.

nothingcomestonothing · 04/06/2023 20:56

The whole making a flag to show you're part of a special group just seems so...key stage one. Is this seriously what well adjusted adults do, make up badges and flags and symbols for their special group?

Hannahsbananas · 04/06/2023 21:25

nothingcomestonothing · 04/06/2023 20:56

The whole making a flag to show you're part of a special group just seems so...key stage one. Is this seriously what well adjusted adults do, make up badges and flags and symbols for their special group?

I think well adjusted is the key phrase there…

nilsmousehammer · 05/06/2023 07:42

nothingcomestonothing · 04/06/2023 20:56

The whole making a flag to show you're part of a special group just seems so...key stage one. Is this seriously what well adjusted adults do, make up badges and flags and symbols for their special group?

This always comes to mind.

Team Alpha Super Awesome Cool Dynamite Wolf Squadron

Team meeting we sometimes have lol :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyobvtzCtLE

Moomoola · 05/06/2023 08:41

brilliant Posts! 😂

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PlantingMarigolds · 05/06/2023 08:55

It's like a parody of itself.

dimorphism · 05/06/2023 09:20

All I've got is 'we're going to need a bigger flag'....

It's getting to almost include so much as to be exclusionary. Disabled people are a glaring omission surely? Being LGBTQI+++ doesn't stop you from being disabled