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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If I woke up tomorrow and was a man...

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Kinsters · 23/05/2023 16:34

Just musing on sex and gender and trying to decide how I would really feel if I woke up tomorrow and I was a man.

Clothes, hobbies, make-up wouldn't change really. I don't really care much what people think of my appearance but I think there would be advantages to being perceived as a man, especially at work.

I wouldn't like being bigger in size. I like being small because I can fit more easily in places (writing that down it sounds silly). I'm sure there are advantages to being bigger/male proportioned that I've never known about or considered. It'd be great to be stronger too. Sex wise, if my DH was at the same time turned into a woman I think we could make it work. It would be an adjustment though.

I don't think waking up as a man would affect any of my day to day interactions - I could still do all the things I do with my kids. Maybe some of my friendships would be different but I have both male and female friends so maybe not.

I guess I just feel that fundamentally I wouldn't be that different. Anyone else pondered this and reached the same or different conclusion? Don't get me wrong, I like being a woman (although now I've been thinking about this a while - do I like being a woman? Really?). I guess I accept being a woman would be a better way of putting it. It is interesting to think how different life would be if I was a man.

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Kinsters · 24/05/2023 01:51

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 23/05/2023 18:26

@Kinsters You're missing a major component in your musings I think. You think your personality won't change, but you're forgetting that your brain will be swimming in a completely different bath or hormones.

Your emotions already change based on your hormones, you'd be a completely different person if you were a man.

I'm not sure it would though. Maybe I would be more aggressive and have to learn some anger management skills that I never needed previously but there wouldn't be that up and down you get with the female cycle which is what I hate. Personally I don't feel like pms is part of my personality, it's something that happens to me and I have to manage it but I don't find that easy, partly because of the unpredictability.

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DemiColon · 24/05/2023 02:03

I'd love to try being a man for a bit, it would be so interesting. I don't really think it would make my life any better though. I'm sure it would make some interactions different, maybe some better, but also some worse.

My job it wouldn't really matter. As far as clothes, I'd probably dress differently, but it would be fun, IMO, to dress like a man as a person with a man's body. I don't worry about where I walk or any of those kinds of things so I don't see that changing. It would be interesting to be stronger. I'd be glad to say goodbye to periods.

I do tend to think it would effect my personality to have a totally different hormone profile. I feel quite different even now when I have hormonal highs and lows, I can only imagine it would be like that X 1000.

Sex, who knows. I am pretty sure my current partner would not be into sex with a man. But like the OP, although I am heterosexual as a woman, I don't know if I'd want to be a man having sex with a man - too much of what I like about sex with a man is about me being female in relation to that maleness. Would that transfer? I have doubts.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 24/05/2023 04:32

The idea of having a penis and balls - ewwww!

But as a single parent with 100% care, the fawning and adulation I'd get from doing the exact same stuff I do right now would be kinda nice.

TiredOfCleaning · 24/05/2023 06:18

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 23/05/2023 20:48

Admittedly it’s been 23 years since my first experiences with baby groups but I doubt things have changed that much.

11 years since my last baby group and no they haven't changed.

Don't get me started on the fact that DH works abroad 3-4 months every fucking year and I bring up my 2 Dcs with nary a comment (including a disabled DC) yet last year when i went away for a SINGLE WEEK (caps because I am still annoyed) DH got so many pats on the back for looking after his own children plus was invited to dinner twice by our neighbours to give him a break and my own parents said to me; 'Isn't it wonderfulhow he supports you'.

I will NOT get started.....

shrubgreen · 24/05/2023 06:24

I'd like to be able to hold and use a smart phone with one hand. There aren't any around that are designed for women's hands!

RavingStone · 24/05/2023 06:35

shrubgreen · 24/05/2023 06:24

I'd like to be able to hold and use a smart phone with one hand. There aren't any around that are designed for women's hands!

Oh I massively second this!

And I add to this electric Uber/ Lime Bikes. They're really fun to hire BUT the brakes are - surprise surprise - set at an angle suited for large hands. They are super heavy and you really need to be able to brake quickly to ride them safely and to make the most of them being electric. Difficult brakes means slower rides means costs more to hire. But that's ok women like paying more for stuff right?

CurlewKate · 24/05/2023 06:56

Women friends. I would miss my women friends dreadfully.

CurlewKate · 24/05/2023 07:04

Except I wouldn't, because I'd be a man and have no idea what having women friends means!

nilsmousehammer · 24/05/2023 07:17

If I woke up tomorrow and was a cat, I suppose I could spend the day lazing around in the sunshine. If I woke up tomorrow and had turned into a fairy godmother I could also have a rather nice time. Fiction's fun to think about.

postwarbulge · 24/05/2023 08:28

If you woke up in the morning to find yourself a man, since you will still be in bed you would then proceed to fart in it

Ofcourseshecan · 24/05/2023 08:43

TiredOfCleaning · 23/05/2023 18:11

TBH I am not that interested in sex either.

I just want to not feel vulnerable. Every single bloody day.

I was a keen horse and pony rider in my teenage girlhood. All these cod psychs say that girls are into horses as sexual thrill. I never felt that. I just thought I fel not at the mercy of my physcial vulnerability on a horse. I think male people never really understand what it is to feel a constant physical vulnerability.

Oh, I would do everything I did when I was young but without the risk of violence, intimidation and verbal abuse! Oh what joy, travelling the world, exploring the city I live in, being curious and open to new experiences— but in peace and safety.

Yes I know men attack other men too, but it’s not the constant endless harassment that women get. It used to grind me down at times. How I longed for the freedom men had.

bluetongue · 24/05/2023 09:00

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 24/05/2023 04:32

The idea of having a penis and balls - ewwww!

But as a single parent with 100% care, the fawning and adulation I'd get from doing the exact same stuff I do right now would be kinda nice.

I agree about the penis and balls but then thought that breasts can be kind of awkward and get in the way too (though at least they don’t get random erections).

ScrollingLeaves · 24/05/2023 11:27

About a year ago I heard a very good radio 4 programme about a woman, Norah Vincent, who had written a book called, “My Year as a Man.” It was extremely interesting. She was a lesbian but not transgender. It was an experiment that lasted about 18 months.

One thing that stood out to me was that she was no longer looked at by men, and that men generally avoid eye contact between each other.

Vincent stated that, after the experiment, she gained more sympathy for the male condition: "Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Made_Man_(book)

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/05/2023 12:11

Hell yeah. I'd love to be male. I want strength, power, lack of vulnerability and to have women being my service humans.

The only things I don't want are the cock and balls. I've always thought them rather silly.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/05/2023 12:13

Vincent stated that, after the experiment, she gained more sympathy for the male condition: "Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."

Where is the tiny violin emoticon? Found it!🎻

FizzingAda · 24/05/2023 12:16

I'd like to be able to get the lids off jars and bottles. To be strong. Otherwise I'm happy being female.

SirVixofVixHall · 24/05/2023 12:26

RavingStone · 24/05/2023 06:35

Oh I massively second this!

And I add to this electric Uber/ Lime Bikes. They're really fun to hire BUT the brakes are - surprise surprise - set at an angle suited for large hands. They are super heavy and you really need to be able to brake quickly to ride them safely and to make the most of them being electric. Difficult brakes means slower rides means costs more to hire. But that's ok women like paying more for stuff right?

Read “Invisible Women” by Caroline Criado Perez. It is an eye opener how the world is designed for and around men.

CharlottenBurger · 24/05/2023 12:35

@JulieHoney

I’d quite like to have a wank

I was going to put this but thought 'No, I can't'. Not because I necessarily would want to try 'one off the wrist' but because it was a funny thing to say. My husband once said that when he was 13 he and his mates would discuss what they would do if they magically woke up as a woman. 'I'd feel myself all over!' one lad said.

WickedSerious · 24/05/2023 12:48

MayBeee · 23/05/2023 17:02

I'd sit on the toilet for 40 minutes having a shit and a wank whilst the shower is going full pelt and then come out of the bathroom after probably having a 2 minute shower and then moan at the water bill and get everyone in the household on the water is precious conversation I might have someone like this at home

Those forty minute shits are quite something aren't they?

My grandmother used to say that my grandfather thought he was dying if he didn't shit his brain out twice a day.

MsRosley · 24/05/2023 23:47

Literally the only thing I'd enjoy is being able to have a pee more discretely when out for a walk.

Hal9001 · 24/05/2023 23:54

shrubgreen · 24/05/2023 06:24

I'd like to be able to hold and use a smart phone with one hand. There aren't any around that are designed for women's hands!

I can and am, using a smartphone with one hand...

I have never wanted to be a man. I have no interest in being a man. None.

I love being a woman.

I adore being a woman.

It fucks me off that my state of being is undesirable.

Ok, the patriarchy, sure.

I'd still rather be a woman.

Hal9001 · 24/05/2023 23:56

Addendum.

I do have large hands...

I am quite tall...

MovinGroovinBarbie · 25/05/2023 00:07

YukoandHiro · 23/05/2023 16:53

If I could click my fingers and be anything for a year I would choose to be a wealthy white single man around the age of 35 - old enough to be taken seriously but young enough to have zero responsibilities except my commitment to myself and nobody would judge me for it.

But you'd be much more likely to be a sole/main breadwinner with the mental load of financially supporting your family. Not saying that's harder than being a SAHM but it's hardly 'zero responsibilities'. You'll be judged much more harshly than a female if you're not financially successful, not least by women.

I also think a lot of women wouldn't be able to deal with male interaction very well. For instance, men will happily call their mate 'a fat bastard' but how many overweight women would be able to shrug off being called 'a fat bitch' by a friend?

I remember the outrage on here when a larger women was fuming about having to be be measured separately for workwear by her employer. People who get offended by this type off thing will not fare well with male interaction and 'who ate all the pies' jokes etc.

Hal9001 · 25/05/2023 00:38

MovinGroovinBarbie · 25/05/2023 00:07

But you'd be much more likely to be a sole/main breadwinner with the mental load of financially supporting your family. Not saying that's harder than being a SAHM but it's hardly 'zero responsibilities'. You'll be judged much more harshly than a female if you're not financially successful, not least by women.

I also think a lot of women wouldn't be able to deal with male interaction very well. For instance, men will happily call their mate 'a fat bastard' but how many overweight women would be able to shrug off being called 'a fat bitch' by a friend?

I remember the outrage on here when a larger women was fuming about having to be be measured separately for workwear by her employer. People who get offended by this type off thing will not fare well with male interaction and 'who ate all the pies' jokes etc.

Whaaattt?

Bonkerism.

MovinGroovinBarbie · 25/05/2023 01:12

Hal9001 · 25/05/2023 00:38

Whaaattt?

Bonkerism.

I think the grass is always greener. We always hear how men have had it easy for thousands of years but I'm not sure I'd have wanted to be the one engaging in hand to hand combat with invading tribes person or fighting off bears/wolves etc.