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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another 'piss' protest at the EHRC from trans rights activists

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ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 09:33

Seems this is the same 'POT' group as last year - 'Pissed off Ts'

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsitvEOqMQl/

'Following the EHRC’s guidance to alter the Equality Act to only protect on the basis of ‘biological sex’ P.O.T. have staged our second piss zap on the Equality and Human Rights Commission offices.

We placed 90 litres of trans piss outside the building and in their revolving doors, rendering the EHRC more explicitly what it already was: an inaccessible mess. Pouring piss is an anarchist act of resistance that stakes an urgent and lingering claim on our basic human rights. It foregrounds the public embarrassment we experience as targets of the media and the state, and that we in turn also experience when we are forcibly prohibited from single sex spaces such as restrooms. IF YOU TAKE AWAY OUR TOILETS WE’LL MAKE ONE OF YOUR DOORSTEP. Our zaps are pungent proof in the noses of our oppressors that you cannot rinse us from the record or legislate us out of existence. We are here and we need to piss.

In this zap we also played a re-enacted transcript of the EHRC’s meeting with LGBTQIA+ representatives out of a speaker trapped in a bottle of piss. This transcript found in full via @transactualuk demonstrates the EHRC’s incompetence and cowardice as a National Human Rights Institution, as they evade and fumble through vital questions like ‘what is biological sex?’.

BIO SEX ISN’T BINARY

YOU CANNOT CLEANSE US FROM EXISTENCE

THE EHRC HAS BLOOD ON ITS HANDS AND PISS IN ITS STREETS'

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 23/05/2023 13:25

Hepwo · 23/05/2023 13:14

HB: OK. So would you accept then that there are other aspects of sex which are biological such as hormonal makeup, ah, for example, or psychological makeup which might, which also come under the term biological, which should also be part of the sex definition?'

This is the gotcha nonsense on which their edifice is built.

No mate. You might have all agreed with yourselves that this makes sense but it really doesn't.

You’re not answering any questions. You’re avoiding answering questions which might get you into trouble. And that’s — that is just appalling.

Get you into trouble? Nope, your questions are not being answered because they are leading questions that are designed to manipulate. It's visible from space. We've all seen them many, many times.

No-one is obligated to go along with this. It's not your human right to have people agree to this manipulation.

yup

saying no to massive narcissists is difficult

at some point someone needs to say no to these massive narcissists.

they are trying to erode the rights of women

it's the job of the EHRC to say no to them

WomanIsBiology · 23/05/2023 13:29

Anarchists, but the kind of anarchists that want to use the state to enforce their agenda.

Nihilists more like. Nothing is real, meaningful, objectively true or important, except, as with Belcher, what they feel/say is real, meaningful, objectively true and important. Lurching from narcissistic megalomania to narcissistic rage and destruction.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/05/2023 13:33

Pouring piss is an anarchist act of resistance that stakes an urgent and lingering claim on our basic human rights

They should DNA test all that pee for chromosomes to show that they are Sex:Male - as well as Gender:Male, as already proven by their gender stereotypical male aggression.

Peeing all over something is definitely what only male gendered people of the male sex do.

Riapia · 23/05/2023 13:51

The trans pissers are so adaptable they can piss anywhere, without shame, and do.
why the fuck are they so particular about which toilet they use.
Surely it can’t be all about dominance, or can it?

GailBlancheViola · 23/05/2023 14:01

Or is Belcher saying that a third space would identify Belcher as trans? I'm sure plenty of people are very happy to use a mixed sex, all gender space - we get plenty of allies on here saying they won't mind doing so. All the 'you can pee next to me' people.

Ah but they are the wrong sort of women, they want to pee with the ones who don't want to share spaces with them not those that do. Power and control that is what it is, thanks for confirming that Belcher.

GailBlancheViola · 23/05/2023 14:03

Musomama1 · 23/05/2023 13:05

Well allowing men into the women's toilets is very much a piss take.

Anyway, some poor soul from environmental health will be tasked with clearing this up. Not a thought for them from the piss takers.

Utterly entitled, selfish and plainly weird wazzocks.

They should force them to clean it up, it's utterly disgusting that some other poor soul should have to, someone who works for a living unlike those entitled bastards.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/05/2023 14:04

You really wouldn't need a third space to be able to identify Belcher as trans. Unless Belcher was dressed in more masculine attire, then using a third space might "out" Belcher as trans. But no one is going to mistake Belcher for female.

ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 14:14

your questions are not being answered because they are leading questions that are designed to manipulate.

To be fair, some of the questions are just so utterly batshit they're not really answerable.

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SageRosemary · 23/05/2023 14:20

The mothers who gave birth to these nit-witted litter louts must be hanging their heads in shame somewhere

PriOn1 · 23/05/2023 14:29

Women: Dear lawmakers. Can we please have clarification of the law. It says we can be given protection because of our “sex” which really has a very clear meaning, but unfortunately some men have persuaded the powers that be to create a kind of “legal sex” that is opposite to their sex, so can we have it clarified that it is actually “biological sex” rather than “legal sex” or “self-identified sex” or any of the other false claims that men are making as they want to invade our spaces?

Men: Hey you, woman, yes you. I am absolutely terrified, so much so I’m sporting a massive stiffy, but I want to make it clear that whatever women say, the meaning of “biological sex” is unclear. We no longer accept that biological sex is something immutable and registered at birth. That doesn’t suit our agenda at all. We now designate sex as being based on the girly hormones we take and perhaps on operations to give us yummy bouncing tits and probably on lipstick and fishnet tights too. After all, wouldn’t want to exclude any man from women’s spaces, just because he’s unwilling to go that extra mile.

Women: Eyeroll. Not again.

ColdMeg · 23/05/2023 14:37

How is this not a Public Order offence? It is committing an act that outrages public decency, and a public nuisance. It's also criminal damage, and must contravene on public health law.

Why aren't these people just arrested?

lechiffre55 · 23/05/2023 14:42

I fear that any clarification to the equality act will be subject to the same undermining of the language that continually takes place.
The meaning "Biological sex" is already subject to attempts to undermine its meaning.
When the reply in another thread to the question "can you assure me that single sex spaces will be preserved under the law?" Is met by the answer "yes, only people who identify as a given sex will be allowed in" then it shows just how badly language has aleady been subverted.
In what way could the equalities act be clarified on the definition of sex which isn't subject to undermining by a redefinition of the meaning of words.

caringcarer · 23/05/2023 14:56

They should be arrested for this.

ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 14:57

Agree that this is not 'peaceful protest' by any stretch. It's terrorism, plainly.

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BigMosLittleSister · 23/05/2023 15:06

Really hoping this hits the headlines on all the daily papers tomorrow! Loving the comments on this thread, they're all spot on!

ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 15:33

I thought I'd put this in the OP, but here:

https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1660705496922300418?cxt=HHwWhIC9ybi2gYwuAAAA

Sex Matters has a timeline of all of the harassment EHRC have been subject to:

https://sex-matters.org/ehrc-timeline/

https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1660705496922300418?cxt=HHwWhIC9ybi2gYwuAAAA

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Barbadossunset · 23/05/2023 15:44

Interesting that whatever voice modulation they've used can't disguise the very, very posh accents in the film clip

Op, I agree that the protest is really grim, and with whoever said don’t interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake, but op, I don’t know what the accents of the protestors have got to do with it.
Surely their actions are what matters rather than their class?

FictionalCharacter · 23/05/2023 15:49

ColdMeg · 23/05/2023 14:37

How is this not a Public Order offence? It is committing an act that outrages public decency, and a public nuisance. It's also criminal damage, and must contravene on public health law.

Why aren't these people just arrested?

If nobody was arrested for this, while women get arrested for leaving stickers and ribbons, are people still not seeing the double standard? And how nonsensical it is to say the debate is toxic on both sides?

Redebs · 23/05/2023 15:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/05/2023 09:55

Pouring piss is an anarchist act of resistance

Is it now. That's nice, dear.

I heard that in my head in a Joyce Grenfell accent. 🤣🤣
'Geooorge; don't do thet'!

ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 15:57

Barbadossunset · 23/05/2023 15:44

Interesting that whatever voice modulation they've used can't disguise the very, very posh accents in the film clip

Op, I agree that the protest is really grim, and with whoever said don’t interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake, but op, I don’t know what the accents of the protestors have got to do with it.
Surely their actions are what matters rather than their class?

Privileged young people carrying out a dirty protest that is going to require cleaners, doormen, and 'staff' to mop up their bodily fluids is strikingly ironic.

It illustrates the arrogance, solipsism, and contempt of so many 'activists' in this movement - the metaphor of pissing all over the people beneath them is clear.

As far as I can tell, these people are only oppressed by their own stupidity.

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nilsmousehammer · 23/05/2023 16:10

Belcher is perfectly happy for mere female types to go without privacy, dignity or access to public life so that Belcher can do Belcher's thing in the way that makes Belcher happy.

Which, with pissing all over the place when crossed, pretty much sums up the whole situation.

I'm sure the EHRC are having their eyes opened wider on a daily basis.

Justkoko · 23/05/2023 16:49

Hmm, seems a very male thing to do...

FigRollsAlly · 23/05/2023 17:14

lechiffre55 · 23/05/2023 14:42

I fear that any clarification to the equality act will be subject to the same undermining of the language that continually takes place.
The meaning "Biological sex" is already subject to attempts to undermine its meaning.
When the reply in another thread to the question "can you assure me that single sex spaces will be preserved under the law?" Is met by the answer "yes, only people who identify as a given sex will be allowed in" then it shows just how badly language has aleady been subverted.
In what way could the equalities act be clarified on the definition of sex which isn't subject to undermining by a redefinition of the meaning of words.

Would sex registered at birth do? Or would that lead to campaigns for sex not to be included on birth certificates on the basis that people should be able to assign themselves a sex when older?

ArabeIIaScott · 23/05/2023 17:20

FigRollsAlly · 23/05/2023 17:14

Would sex registered at birth do? Or would that lead to campaigns for sex not to be included on birth certificates on the basis that people should be able to assign themselves a sex when older?

I have seen calls for birth certificates not to have sex recorded.

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hamstersarse · 23/05/2023 17:21

Barbadossunset · 23/05/2023 15:44

Interesting that whatever voice modulation they've used can't disguise the very, very posh accents in the film clip

Op, I agree that the protest is really grim, and with whoever said don’t interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake, but op, I don’t know what the accents of the protestors have got to do with it.
Surely their actions are what matters rather than their class?

There’s something especially narcissistic about people who were born into privilege but also want to claim rights associated with being oppressed. It’s a bit much 🤷‍♀️
i don’t think their class is nothing