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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender GP, Susie Green and their Residential for ‘Trans Kids’

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CopperRosie · 20/04/2023 07:55

An “amazing weekend held by @think2speak for families and young people”

https://twitter.com/green_susie100/status/1648774304954195974

https://twitter.com/green_susie100/status/1648774304954195974

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Datun · 21/04/2023 11:22

Let's not forget that WPATH, the world professional association for transgender health, included a link to a fetish castration site in their guidelines.

https://4w.pub/trans-health-authority-cites-castration-fetish-site-in-guidelines/

Susie Green co-authored the 8 edition of their 'Standards of Care'.

Trans Health Authority Cites CASTRATION FETISH Site in Guidelines

Standards-setting global organization links to a disturbing site hosting written child pornography in its guidebook.

https://4w.pub/trans-health-authority-cites-castration-fetish-site-in-guidelines/

PomegranateOfPersephone · 21/04/2023 12:01

Thank you Biology.

I absolutely cannot understand (I hope I never do understand) how some men can get aroused by watching other men, and boys being castrated.

This for me is a strong argument for single sex spaces where we are vulnerable or undressed. I don’t think most women can understand at all or even imagine some of the things which some men finding arousing. I also don’t think we should have to in order to be on our guard now that places where we are vulnerable or undressed are more and more often mixed sex, we certainly shouldn’t have to explain it to our daughters.

I don’t understand how making images or videos of women using the toilet is arousing to some men, I don’t understand why some men want to take used menstrual products from bins…

I mean clearly men and women are very different in our tastes and preferences in these matters. I know (at least I hope) that it is a minority of men who have these strange proclivities but it doesn’t seem that women have them at all, most of us would find all that I have listed here, distressing, disgusting or at the very least in the case of watching people use the toilet, uninteresting.

Nowadays if I happen to find myself alone in women’s changing rooms or toilets I feel afraid until a few more women appear. I never used to feel that way but now you just never know if a dangerous or disturbing man will be in there.

I cannot understand how gender identity/queer theory ever got past robust child safeguarding that I thought was applied in schools, social services and the NHS.

As others said, PREVENT should be on the case with this.

It is outrageous that camps for “trans” children are allowed. We should be protecting children and supporting them to accept and value the bodies they have not encouraging them to look forward to surgery which will impair the functioning of their bodies permanently.

Again once we recognise this for a religious belief and treat it as such, parents, teachers, doctors will I believe approach it differently and with more caution.

More and more I find myself coming to the conclusion that just as with the recent judgment on castration no one, adult or child should be able to consent to “trans” surgeries or cross sex hormones due to the harm that they do to people and the fact that no mentally healthy person would seek such an extreme and detrimental physical “solution” to a problem of psychological distress.

ArabeIIaScott · 21/04/2023 12:08

I don’t think most women can understand at all or even imagine some of the things which some men finding arousing.

Fetishes and paraphilias are almost exclusively confined to the male sex. I've not met many women that even begin to understand them, let alone share the more extreme paraphilias.

ArabeIIaScott · 21/04/2023 12:12

This study of c1000 people has some stats, but I unfortunately can't access it.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2016.1139034

mentioned here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554425/

'Paraphilias, in general, are more common in men, with reasons unknown.[13] A recent study conducted looked specifically at the desire for and experience of paraphilic behaviors of a sample population demographically representative of the general population. The sample size contained a total of 1,040 persons classified according to gender, age, education, ethnicity, religion, and location of residency. Researchers found that almost half of the study population expressed interest in one or more paraphilic categories, with approximately one-third of this population actually acting on this interest at least once. Specifically, fetishism, frotteurism, voyeurism, and masochism held a prevalence of 15.9% (value considered to be statistically unusual), with interest in both males and females. Interest levels in fetishism and masochism revealed no statistically significant difference amongst males and females. The research found that the most common paraphilic interest amongst men is often voyeurism and fetishism.'

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554425

JacquelinePot · 21/04/2023 12:22

PomegranateOfPersephone · 21/04/2023 08:38

So people with cluster B personality disorders manipulating an army of people with ASD traits and others who lack critical thinking skills or just tend to be easily manipulated…

I really think that the sooner we recognise gender identity as a religious belief and give it the same rights and protections that we give other religious beliefs, no more, no less, the better.

Most of the problems we are facing with it come down to the fact that it is a faith position but it is being pushed by institutions which should know better as irrefutable, settled fact as if we have made a major scientific discovery about the nature of humanity and the world more generally about which there can be no doubt.

Many of us don’t believe that trans identities (having a soul of one sex in the body of the other sex) are real in the same way that atheists don’t believe that deities are real. We don’t want to hurt or disadvantage anyone who believes in gender identity, we just don’t want to be forced to share that belief or have that belief impact on us unnecessarily. Currently we are in the process of restructuring society to favour this one religious belief over all others and over not believing at all, including its core tenet of what we would normally call out as child mutilation. We recognise breast ironing and FGM for what they are. This new religious belief obscures almost identical practices.

This, this, this!

Whatwouldscullydo · 21/04/2023 12:26

How can you eradicate trans people 🤔

If after being allowed to keep their bodies healthy and functioning they eventually grow out if being trans then surely they were never really trans.

And if they are killing themselves /dying then given schools are now full of trans kids wouldn't we be tripping over bodies everywhere?

That's a bit of an odd tweet considering the suicide case that made the paper was about a female child who was actually given access to the drugs and was on testosterone via online " services ".

And 2 very prominent case with very clear mental health issues were transitioned aged 2 and placed on blockers and given surgery at a young age.

What point do they actually think they are making here?

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