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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Young women are losing patience too

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FeodoraVictoria · 11/04/2023 21:45

I am seeing more and more young women not afraid to say what they think about men claiming to be women.
https://youtube.com/shorts/LLDaI8TFpUY?feature=share

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FeodoraVictoria · 11/04/2023 21:49

And here is some more by the same young woman https://youtube.com/shorts/LhD5HfuSyoE?feature=share
With some unbelievable WALLPAPER at the entrance of an “All Gender” bathroom.

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Datdamndamp · 11/04/2023 22:02

Yeah, my 11 year old and her mates are over it. LGBT has jumped the shark, they were bored of trans kids by end of junior school when the detransitioning began and they're done with 'being kind' in the face of clout chasers.

Not just trans. As DD said about a 'gay' boy in her year. Maybe if he's gay he could date a boy instead of always dating girls.

fruitbrewhaha · 11/04/2023 22:09

11 year old! Fed up by the end of junior school. Goodness.

I do hope we are at the tail end of this shit.

Gymrabbit · 11/04/2023 22:16

I agree. I’m a GC secondary school teacher and I am seeing more of the teenagers calling out trans privilege and suggesting that little kids don’t need detailed info about gender or sexuality.

Stopsnowing · 11/04/2023 22:23

Yup. Dd has got off her trans high horse.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/04/2023 22:26

It's encouraging that young women feel able to stand up to the bullying trans mob. It must help that sceptical voices are now heard with the extreme creepiness of Dylan Mulvaney / Jeffrey Marsh etc showcasing the nonsense.

FrictionDiction · 11/04/2023 22:42

As a lesbian it pisses me right off that firstly Trans was forced onto LGB and now we're likely to go down with their ship.

Not least because lesbians were amongst the first to see and speak about the problem.

Absolute bullshit that the life of me and my family was screwed by trans-acceptance and will be equally screwed by the backlash.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/04/2023 23:02

Have you ever been to Europe, Nordic countries in particular? Unisex public toilets are generally the norm there.

RealityFan · 11/04/2023 23:04

Generation Alpha are gonna get the adults out of jail.

Jabiru · 11/04/2023 23:07

Friction - that’s very interesting.

I’m a straight woman with teenage daughters, one of whom is bisexual.

I’ve tried to articulate that I’m not sure ‘T’ belongs with LGB. But apparently this makes me transphobic.

QueenCamilla · 11/04/2023 23:09

MerlinsLostMarbles · 11/04/2023 23:02

Have you ever been to Europe, Nordic countries in particular? Unisex public toilets are generally the norm there.

Nordic countries - not in Sweden, Finland or Estonia. Dunno which one's you mean that do Unisex as standard, haven't been to those.
I still remember being "caught" by a male in an unlocked toilet-cubicle in a club - I really was not expecting a male there as Unisex toilets didn't even register as a possibility.

Now France is a different story...

Ndd135632 · 11/04/2023 23:12

My 16 year old DS rolls his eyes at it all. He said it is only the girls at school who change their pronouns all the time. Seen as the drama llamas and his group of mates all steer well clear. None of the boys are pretending to be girls.

It will be over soon. Just feel sorry for those swept up in it. Agree that gen alpha will save us all.

QueenCamilla · 11/04/2023 23:17

I also feel it's well past Sell-by-date.
My nearly 10 year old hasn't yet had any indoctrination at school and looks like will avoid it completely as schools are reviewing (dropping) their gender-education crap. Great, saves me kicking up a fuss!

dropthevipers · 11/04/2023 23:25

given the recent sunlight (mermaids, tavistock, Scottish gra etc.) the only ones left on the TRA bandwagon are full on tin foil hat nutters, which has to be a vanishingly small percentage.

Datun · 11/04/2023 23:27

Social stigma and a lack of trust in the justice system often mean that women and girls fail to report attacks, and those that do, are frequently failed by callous and prejudiced justice systems or outdated laws, she said.

Blimey. Perhaps countries who, on the surface, seem progressive, are anything but. I always thought Canada was, for instance.

Datdamndamp · 11/04/2023 23:37

FrictionDiction · 11/04/2023 22:42

As a lesbian it pisses me right off that firstly Trans was forced onto LGB and now we're likely to go down with their ship.

Not least because lesbians were amongst the first to see and speak about the problem.

Absolute bullshit that the life of me and my family was screwed by trans-acceptance and will be equally screwed by the backlash.

I sincerely hope not. I think there's widespread acceptance still. In the example I gave DD is completely happy to have gay friends she just notices boys assuming gay identities to be fashionable when their orientation appears to be straight. But the tide has turned on transgender in that boys aren't welcome to impact sports etc.

OneMorePlant · 11/04/2023 23:49

Datun · 11/04/2023 23:27

Social stigma and a lack of trust in the justice system often mean that women and girls fail to report attacks, and those that do, are frequently failed by callous and prejudiced justice systems or outdated laws, she said.

Blimey. Perhaps countries who, on the surface, seem progressive, are anything but. I always thought Canada was, for instance.

For some strange reason it seems they often keep forgetting about women when they score countries on "progressiveness and gender equality"

ReadersD1gest · 11/04/2023 23:53

This thread is quite heartening. Please God you're right and the end is finally in sight, if not quite here yet.

GwenogJones · 12/04/2023 01:12

We've had a trans boy quietly go back to being a girl at my school recently. The rest of the kids are confused and exasperated by the whole thing - their refrain being 'I'm not gonna say anything mean to anyone's face but it's stupid'.

Unfortunately I have noticed that they are so indoctrinated into the forced teaming of LGBT that they can't separate it out. I've had kids say to me of themselves - totally matter of fact - 'well I'm very homophobic' and when I've explained that that is no different than just admitting 'well I'm very racist' they can't understand it and start talking about what a nonsense gender is... which it is, only it has nothing to do with being gay.

I'm hoping that as they get older and wiser (they are still the younger end of high school) they will be able to wrap their heads around LGB without the T, I'm not totally despairing for the future of LGB rights, because teenagers around their peers and away from their parents do tend to be quite ableist/racist/ homophobic as they don't have fully developed empathy and do enjoy the shock factor and they will grow out of it.

But the T has done a number on kids understanding of LGB issues (and even what LGB really is) and it will need careful unpicking in an atmosphere where adults are not afraid of being fired if they talk about all this truthfully. I am seeing the reality that LGB acceptance is down among young people entirely because of the T - and it is infuriating.

Helleofabore · 12/04/2023 05:10

I always laugh when posters come and tell us all how we are dinosaurs and are going to ‘die out’ based on how wonderfully tolerant the next generation of adults are.

They are basing this all on falsehood, which reflects the false nature of the ideological approach that gender identity has taken.

And both are demonstrably false. Not one person can change sex and no laws should be based on someone’s identity that is changeable. And no, the polls and the mounting anecdotal evidence shows that the current 18-28 year olds are not tolerant at all. Quite the opposite.

PriOn1 · 12/04/2023 06:01

QueenCamilla · 11/04/2023 23:09

Nordic countries - not in Sweden, Finland or Estonia. Dunno which one's you mean that do Unisex as standard, haven't been to those.
I still remember being "caught" by a male in an unlocked toilet-cubicle in a club - I really was not expecting a male there as Unisex toilets didn't even register as a possibility.

Now France is a different story...

You can add Norway to your list. Mixed sex toilets have recently been introduced in various places, but they are in addition to single sex.

And Norway is like Scotland, I think. Believes its own myth about being progressive, but lots of remaining sexism underlying everything.

Chersfrozenface · 12/04/2023 07:11

Blimey. Perhaps countries who, on the surface, seem progressive, are anything but. I always thought Canada was, for instance.

In Canada one in four women has experienced sex based violence, and in New Zealand it's one in three.

So much for being progressive.

beguilingeyes · 12/04/2023 07:31

There's a John Lennon song called Woman Is The N**r Of The World, which is a horrendous title and probably gets no airplay (!!!) but he's basically saying that at the bottom of the pecking order of every prejudice there is, come the women. Added to every other bigotry, misogyny is there to make it worse.

bellinisurge · 12/04/2023 07:38

It's the backlash against LGB we need to watch out for. The horrible consequence of the forced teaming. Casual use of LGBTQ+ to describe LGB issues as if the TQ+ had anything to do with it . And the use of the alphabet to suggest some dickhead who can't show his cock to women is somehow and LGB issue.