Young women are losing patience too

[FeodoraVictoria]

I am seeing more and more young women not afraid to say what they think about men claiming to be women.
https://youtube.com/shorts/LLDaI8TFpUY?feature=share

I’ve made a decision that year 6 is when I’m being honest with my child about this subject. I’m still going to explain the importance of kindness but there’s no way I’m waiting and letting some outside agency beat me to it.

She put that so well, and simply too.

I hope there will be support for her if she gets any trouble.

I’ll be honest and say that I am completely sick of white, gay males. They really do seem to be the ones lecturing and hectoring. I have zero ill feeling towards lesbians though.

Ls, especially, have paid a heavy price with the relentless, coercive push to include bio (fully intact and functioning) males in their dating pools
It's actually beyond belief that this ever got traction, isn't it?

Yes it is - but all the lesbians that I know are outspokenly TWAW.

Yes it is - but all the lesbians that I know are outspokenly TWAW.

Do you think they genuinely believe this. Would they date males who ID as lesbians?

That is an excellent analogy, Buffers. Shall be pinching it.

This is all heartening to hear, if young women are starting to turn against genderism.

@RudsyFarmer "I’ll be honest and say that I am completely sick of white, gay males. They really do seem to be the ones lecturing and hectoring. I have zero ill feeling towards lesbians though."

I'm seeing some pushback from some gay males - Gays Against Groomers, Gay Men's Network, Mr Menno, Duncan Henry, Denis Noel Kavanagh, etc. Many gay males seem to be losing patience with the gender nonsense too. Though hard to say how representative they are.

But also - what does being "white" have to do with it?

People like Fred Sergeant have been vocal this topic for a while too. It helps that he was at the Stonewall riots so is countering the transing of gay history. He got attacked at a pride march by TRAs - he is one of the founders of pride marches. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11231895/Veteran-gay-rights-protester-74-1969-Stonewall-Riots-attacked-pro-trans-mob.html

Ironically, part if the reason she saw herself as male was probably the mysoginy from teen boys.

'Women are bitchy, women are gossipy, women are DRAMA queens'. 'I hate being thought if that way. That's not me. Maybe if I was a boy they'd respect me for me instead of belittle me like this'.

I'm just saying have a word with your son regarding this. I suspect internalised mysoginy as a result of sociatal influences (a large part of that being the boys they are around as a teen) and the way they are treated as girls, is a large part why we have so manny young women who want to opt out of their gender.

She probably recognised that she just couldn't win. That no matter how she presented, these teen boys still looked down on her.

jarring that young people say “Hi, my name is James, my pronouns are he/him and I am an aromantic bisexual”

It's downright weird when an adult introduces themselves by including their sexual orientation; it sounds to me like an actual safeguarding issue when a child/young person does it.

Any adult - or even other child - replying with "Hi, James, good to meet you. Now, tell me, James: what do you specifically look for in a sexual partner?" would be rightly hauled out and dealt with appropriately; so how is it a good thing when a child is encouraged (and by whom? Society, influencers, online groomers?) to volunteer this information to everybody they first meet? And that's if they are even old enough for sexuality to be appropriate yet, in the first place.

That is what the TRAs and gender ideologists have truly shine light on. That progress we thought we had made was just a thin veil over the deep rooted misogyny that still lay unchanged. And just look how little it took for that misogyny to rise up again. All it took was an incoherent, unevidenced, pseudo-science movement that was unashamed of its forefront prioritization of males wishes over female’s basic human rights, and unashamed of its violent and aggressive reactions to women who wouldn’t comply.

Absolutely this. Trans ideology has really ripped the mask of the idea that women had achieved something approaching equality. We're still firmly at the bottom of the heap.

@RudsyFarmer

My 10 year old ds (year 5) asked me what transgender meant after hearing about the EHRC clarifying biological sex on the radio news bulletin.

It was actually quite difficult to explain in an age appropriate way but I settled for saying some people believe they feel like they should be a different sex to the one they were born as and they believe they can choose whether they are a boy or girl. I told him I didn’t agree with that and although some people feel very upset with their bodies nobody can change sex. You are born male or female and that’s it but unless an activity or job specifically requires a male or female body type (we came up with very few examples of this- mostly being pregnant, giving birth and breast feeding)then anyone can do any job or like anything they want. There are no boys things and girls things but if you have a penis you’re male and you can’t do anything about that.

I’m hoping that this is the case - although listening to one of the striking junior doctors explain that she worked in the Gynaecology department which meant working with people with uteruses I think there’s still a way to go. (I might have yelled fuck off the word is women and DH burst out laughing saying there’s someone that needs to go back to medical school).

That's such a depressing video. The crazed woman in the picture runs up, pours her coffee over him and goes off shouting - ' I didn't assault him!'. Completely divorced from reality.

Fred is a lovely man. The gender loons hate him because he was at the Stonewall riots and can vouch that no trans people were involved. He is a bit frail now and I fear for his safety.

*MerlinsLostMarbles" · Yesterday 23:02

Have you ever been to Europe, Nordic countries in particular? Unisex public toilets are generally the norm there.

The norm? That's, to use a polite, technical term - complete and utter bollocks.

I've been working in Norway (and numerous other countries) since 1997 and I've never seen one. I've spent years there, from Kristiansand to Hammerfest.

I've also been in Denmark several times, same deal, no unisex toilets.

4 years ago, I spent six weeks in Gothenburg, went to loads of pubs and restaurants and they were all Herr och Damer (Kvinnor in one place).

Let's not forget it was a child who called out the Emporer for having no clothes.

Gotta love kids.

@EndIessTea

It is completely inappropriate to share your sexual preferences as freely as your name - one of those things is private, the other public - and jarring that young people say “Hi, my name is James, my pronouns are he/him and I am an aromantic bisexual”. All anyone needs to know is the name. Young people don’t see how they are being weird and violating norms.

I read that first as "and I am an aromatic bisexual" and wanted to sniff him.

The other day I was following a Twitter debate, came across one of those fascinating comments and looked at the commenters profile.

They identify as nonbinary and bisexual (which doesn't actually make sense as two different definitional worlds are used) and then list themselves as ADHD, autistic, endo-sufferer, and PCOS sufferer. The profile picture shows a very young female person.

I think much of this is both a) to declare one's ideological tribe to others, and b) to score higher in the victim hierarchy which now makes it very hard for anyone to be just cishet and also perhaps healthy. (Doesn't mean that the listed health conditions would necessarily not be real and awful to have all of them, just that we didn't have this custom of listing our health problems in places where we introduce ourselves to strangers, unless it's when doing advocacy work or in medical settings).

The pisswank rubber man at the NSPCC seemed to have no awareness that some things are private should be only for those we know personally and trust and other things are public, professional and okay for work.

I think with those types he absolutely did know it wasn’t appropriate and that was a large part of why he did it.

My young teens are over it. They think it's attention seeking rubbish, and don't bother with the alphabet crowd in school because they feel the trans and nb kids are just waiting for an excuse to tell people off for misgendering etc, so they're afraid to interact. Its really sad that these kids have been enabled to behave like this. One example given the other day was that a few boys were teasing a 'transboy', and another lovely little lad told them to leave her alone. The 'transboy' then punched the lad defending for 'misgendering' her.

This is insane. Aggressor should be sanctioned by the school.

One example given the other day was that a few boys were teasing a 'transboy', and another lovely little lad told them to leave her alone. The 'transboy' then punched the lad defending for 'misgendering' her.

Many of these people aren't looking for basic human respect or peaceful tolerance; they demand nothing less than disciples.

I think the kids will be over this, if not already because of the incessant whining.
They whine fucking all day long- and don’t Get me started on the fucking pronouns and «mis» gendering.

Good grief. They are insufferable

I remember when kids deliberately got my fave football team and band wrong, they sent me into a tizz.

However I didn't have parents, teachers, and those in charge of running society telling me I was being bullied and the bullys sent to the Siberian salt mines.

Ditto in trumps from me, a gay men. Gay men are duty bound to stand against all the horrible attacks on lesbians, whether or not there is any direct benefit to us - everyone is in debt to them, especially children and young people of all sexual orientations (and deserving the chance to discover!) and their parents. I am pleased to say that in general conversation with some gay couples who live near me that I discovered, without raising the subject, that they have all cancelled their monthly donations to Stonewall and transferred them to the Lesbian and Gay Alliance (LGBA) and/or Gay Men's Network - which Stonewall dares to call a "hate" organisations because they rejects gender identity ideology - after reading about attacks on gay women and the response of Stonewall.
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