Starmer insults women’s intelligence to blame Sunak for judicial failures when it was Starmer’s CPS that failed to prosecute rapists

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I am so fed up with politicians and their seedy bully boy tactics.

So Starmer having failed to get personal approval from voters who rate Sunak higher than him, doesn't think maybe I should try harder to be more relevant to voters.

No he decides to roll in the gutter and use personal attacks. https://www.jackfm.co.uk/news/politics/labour-takes-inspiration-from-australia-with-sunak-attack-ads-but-they-need-more-to-pull-off-a-proper-ousting/

I'm not saying the Tories are blameless, but lets face it, it was/is the CPS who continued/s to fail to prosecute rapists even when the police present evidence, because the CPS only want to take on sure fire winning court cases to up their stats.

So not only has Labour tried to make out Sunak (who became as MP the same year as Starmer) personally doesn't want child abusers to go to prison, but now has plagerised women campaign's slogan about how rape has been decriminalised. https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/the-decriminalisation-of-rape/

And yet Labour still doesn't know what a woman is, nor have they re-admitted women expelled from Labour for saying women are biological females. But think our tiny emotional brains will be overwhelmed by their crass statements about women's issues.

Labour seem to think that because this sort of politcal sloganeering used by the vote leave party were sucessful during the Brexit campaign, that this is how they will win the next election.

Which is worse? That our politicians think voters are such dimwits. Or that they might be right. https://labourlist.org/2023/04/labour-attack-ad-rishi-sunak-crime-twitter-controversial-advert/

What saying that some people clearly prioritise party allegiance over protecting the integrity of their sex?

I didn't report you - perhaps you might find out who did.

Can you not deal with the fact that many of us have simply given up on the Labour Party - without having to suggest that we wish to prop up a Tory party? My vote has to mean something - and nobody should be voting for a party that completely disregards its own members, or whose own MP refuses to meet with their own constituents.

Of course I can - I said you are entitled to your view. Where have I said otherwise?

Interesting it was deleted. Compared to some stuff I’ve read on here aimed at people not voting Labour it was pretty mild

Yes, can't even think there was anything remotely controversial....I mentioned my MP refusing to meet with her constituents and saying " she was never going to change her mind and that we should stop wasting our time".

The hair trigger, censorius nature of the contemporary so called Progressive Left is quite. disturbing.

What about all the Labour Women thrown out of the party for believing sex is real? What about the Women's groups frozen out of having stalls at Labour conferences? I can't see that, after allowing this to happen, Keir Starmer is likely to ditch his Self ID policy, as promised at that Pink News speech. If he's not simply trying to brush it under the carpet until all the stupid, bigoted women catch up with the progressive superior understanding he has, then he's doing a very good impression that he is.

The Conservatives both created this monster and defended it practically

This monster (TWAW) was created by Labour through the 2004 GRA

The amnesia around this is crazy.🤯

It's the rewriting of history - if they say it happened this way then that's how it happened.

It’s not amnesia, it’s a longer-term memory!

Men were being placed in Women’s prisons before 2015.

It is the case.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/18/theresa-may-plans-to-let-people-change-gender-without-medical-checks

She let people change gender without medical checks. And since then genderwoo has been written into policy, allowing male sex offenders to be put on women's wards and in women's prisons, where they sexually assaulted women. Allowing boys into girls' facilities in school. Opening the floodgates so we are in the mess we're in now.

Some Tories claim to be "rolling back" but they are not rolling back, although they might have pushed the Pause button in some areas. They could do much more. But they won't because Sunak fears that even with his large majority, he wouldn't be able to get enough support from Tory MPs to reverse the damage and safeguard women's rights.

Who was in government in 2015? Oh yeah, the Tories.

Is it just me, or does that Guardian article say May "plan[ned] to" rather than "let people" change gender without medical checks?

And then, after that, wasn't there massive pushback, whereafter it did not happen?

That's not self ID. Self ID is the acquisition of a GRC with no criteria.

Letting men into women's spaces, or not, is policy.

There is no law to prevent them. It's exemptions in the equality act which does that. And they need to be clarified as based on sex as a biological state, not sex as a legal one.

Men in Women’s prisons long PREDATES 2015.

GRA and EQ10 are both Labour.

Unfortunately not ResisterRex. Here's what was happening by 2021. Even though some Tory MPs were talking about "rolling back" in the media, as far as parliament was concerned the Tory government were still pursuing a TWAW agenda.

https://debbiehayton.com/2021/03/17/why-does-penny-mordaunt-think-trans-men-are-men/

This references the MOMA. Which properly reflected the status of "mother" and did not take the turn you'd like to indicate it did.

How about engaging with Datun's points?

Sorry but this is getting stupid.

As posted the GRA 2004 and the EA 2010 were both past when Labour was in power 1994 - 2010.

And as we know, particularly on mumsnet FWR, following it that a network of queer activists and Stonewall affiliates pushed the boundaries, not just publicly, but by getting seats on committees etc. for self ID.

This resulted in the then Government (Tories) putting out a consultation on bringing in Self ID, because influenced by a well organised group of advocates, they were lead to believe that this was the logical next step.

It is to the credit of the Tories, which I am saying not because I am a Tory but appreciate integrity, that as a result of the consultation, and the huge push back by women about the loss of women's sex based rights, that the Tories put self id on hold.

And it is worrying to think that had Labour been in power at the time, they would most probably have ignored women, as they are doing now (or even banning them) and self id would probably be enshrined in law now.

I dont think women can rely on either party to be champions of women's rights, but to try and fabricate facts to suit some implausible narrative because of some unblinkered party loyalty, is what makes many people, not just posters on FWR, floating voters.

If the people pushing a particular party's policys are such entrenched my way or no way, is it any wonder that people dont care about voting.

Let alone standing by the student union publicity stunts such as Labour's purile attack ads.

They have shown no integrity OP. May didn't know what a woman was. Johnson didn't know what a woman was. Sunak didn't know what a woman was, although I've heard he's come round. Conservatives For Women (I think that's their name, I understand they're similar to Labour Women's Declaration?) found that only 50% of Tory MPs knew what a woman was in a recent poll. And the Tory government have no plans to safeguard Women's rights from TRAs.

What happened was Tory supporting media didn't really cover what the Tories were doing. They hoped that by highlighting genderwoo being spouted by other parties the Tories would get the message, without damaging their voter base. At the same time space to any Tory who spoke out. That's why so many people believed the lie "At least the Conservatives know what a woman is."

While all the time TWAW was the majority belief in the Tory government, they were writing genderwoo into policy, their MPs were reporting women for chatting on Twitter. They have continued to appoint TRAs to prominent positions.

It's true for you if that is what you believe.

Christ on a bike.

Like kemi, Suella braverman, Hilary Cass?

Plus they kicked self ID out and have stopped it, so far, in Scotland.

I'm torn between the faux "think that's what Conservatives for Women are?" and the "only 50% of Tory MPs know what a woman is". There again, the alleged silence of Tory supporting media is a good one too.

So much bollocks.